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  1. Lessifer

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    That's part of what a free press is supposed to do, hold the politicians accountable for their actions. Instead we've gotten to the point where a Congressman says, when asked if he read the bill, "I flipped through every page," and it becomes fodder for late night comedy instead of being taken...
  2. Lessifer

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    That is absolutely true, however, when the job you were elected to perform, for which you get paid, is to determine which of those laws come to be, then I am not giving any free passes. If you didn't have time to read the bill, or understand what it means, don't vote on it.
  3. Lessifer

    California Prop 56 - Hidden Vape Tax

    Hopefully you at least attempted to mount some resistance before the vote. I'm not saying you didn't, I didn't see any organized resistance up in my neck of the woods.
  4. Lessifer

    petition needs your signature

    Hope everyone is having a happy and safe 4th! :evil:
  5. Lessifer

    California Prop 56 - Hidden Vape Tax

    Retailers could eat the tax increase, however, I imagine that liquid sales are where they make the majority of their income and most are probably struggling as is. Add to that the giant domino falling in the form of the SF flavor ban, and I don't know what to think.
  6. Lessifer

    California Prop 56 - Hidden Vape Tax

    The new rate is supposed to be effective July 1st.
  7. Lessifer

    California Prop 56 - Hidden Vape Tax

    Not quite the 80% I was expecting, but pretty darn close...
  8. Lessifer

    petition needs your signature

    Yup, I went camping, the only time I'm actually unplugged... Sorry folks! Petition is now reopened, and all should be good. I actually got home Sunday night but decided to leave my computer turned off until this morning when I actually returned to "work."
  9. Lessifer

    Why Don’t More Smokers Switch to Using E-Cigarettes: The Views of Confirmed Smokers

    As an ex-smoker and husband to a current smoker, I can confirm that many smokers will cling to any excuse to not quit smoking. For those who want an alternative, let's hope vaping will be around for them.
  10. Lessifer

    Does anyone else think drip tips are getting too wide?

    I haven't noticed my drip tips getting any bigger over the years that I've been using them. What in the heck are you people doing to them?
  11. Lessifer

    FDA "Health" Groups Urge Price & Gottlieb to Move Forward with Deeming Regs

    I can just see the headline now: Trump administration destroys FDA regulations, to save Tobacco Industry.
  12. Lessifer

    Should ecf encourage vaping among neversmokers?

    Well, I saw yours as more a reaction to the volume + level of nicotine, so I didn't include it. Yes, it's a guess, as part of an expressed opinion, not to be taken as an actual survey result of a wide population of vapers. It's a feeling I've been getting more and more while reading posts...
  13. Lessifer

    Should ecf encourage vaping among neversmokers?

    "You never smoked, but decided to grab some e-liquid formulated with a large amount of a very addictive chemical just for grins and giggles?" "What were you thinking? You don't need ANY nicotine in a vape if you never smoked. You may need to see a Dr. after vaping that much. Hope you feel...
  14. Lessifer

    Should ecf encourage vaping among neversmokers?

    Yeah, I didn't really mean you, you seem thoughtful and can understand nuance. Just take this particular poll for instance. I've seen repeatedly, vapers who are horrified at the idea that a non-smoker would pick up vaping, let alone with nicotine! There are still plenty of vapers who see...
  15. Lessifer

    Should ecf encourage vaping among neversmokers?

    The "trollers" are one thing, though they're likely right. I've been nic sic from sampling 12mg liquids in a sub ohm dripper before. I find it highly unlikely that anyone would get to 20ml before getting sick, if they're not already used to nicotine. The undercurrent has been here all along...
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    Should ecf encourage vaping among neversmokers?

    True, but you can see the same sentiment all over this forum, and facebook. Non-vapers already treat us like smokers, and there are very few vapers who will fight that classification.
  17. Lessifer

    Should ecf encourage vaping among neversmokers?

    It's all about the scope. To me it's about the same as the difference between jumping from 3 feet up, and 30 feet up. Sure, you could jump from 3 feet and sprain an ankle, but it's highly unlikely. I also don't see vaping as ONLY smoking cessation. There are actually benefits to nicotine, some...
  18. Lessifer

    Should ecf encourage vaping among neversmokers?

    That thread teaches me that it is very unlikely that we'll ever be treated as anything other than smokers, because even vapers don't believe vaping is different.
  19. Lessifer

    Should I buy vaping gear before it's banned?

    Couldn't hurt, as long as you can afford it. An outright ban is unlikely, more of a slow choking death, and depending on local laws or upcoming laws, liquid is more of the chokepoint than gear.