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  1. billherbst

    Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux

    Dusty, As far as I know (and I mean that seriously, as I'm not 100% certain), RiverBottomFogSauce KillR Y4 is the only NET-based RY4 that uses no additional flavorings (i.e., caramel and vanilla). My understanding is that Brian selected tobaccos for extraction that were cased or topped with...
  2. billherbst

    The Really Big RY4 Roundup (long)

    Jerms, That is one heck of an RY4 quartet you have. SI Volt RY4 and QnJ ouR whY qu4tro are both in the A graded group---the very best of the best retail RY4s---with RBFS KillR Y4 getting a B+ and GeJ GJ4 earning a solid B from me. Not a clunker in the bunch. You, sir, qualify as an RY4...
  3. billherbst

    The Really Big RY4 Roundup (long)

    Jerms, Tony, IndigoVapor's owner and juicemaster, emailed me this afternoon with that information. He is currently using steam-distilled natural tobacco extract that is outsourced from a supplier he can monitor. Tony has plans to do in-house extractions down the road. The other well-known NET...
  4. billherbst

    The Really Big RY4 Roundup (long)

    Nope. It's a mystery to me. That happened with my first two bottles of Vita Bella, an NET from GoodEJuice, in 2011 and 2012. Both started off light tan or caramel colored and over time steeped into a deep maroon color. Flavor profile changed, too. Now I'm on my third 30ml bottle of VB, and I...
  5. billherbst

    The Really Big RY4 Roundup (long)

    Cool, In vaping's brief history, the main source of Tobacco Absolute was the Bulgarian commercial product originally marketed in the perfume industry. The traits you mention, including a greenish-yellow oily residue, are characteristic of that particular TA. Now, however, other sources of...
  6. billherbst

    The Really Big RY4 Roundup (long)

    Cool, Perhaps, but I'm inclined to think not. The problem is that TA is apparently much more common in retail tobacco eliquids than we may know. Other than my palate (which is only semi-reliable and far from infallible), I have no way of knowing how many retail Custom RY4s use TA. Also, TA...
  7. billherbst

    The Really Big RY4 Roundup (long)

    Specs: The 15ml bottle of N-E-T.com tRY4.1 that Big Juicy sent me (thanks, BJ!) contains a transparent liquid, medium-caramel-colored, at 12mg nic strength in a 60PG/40VG base. Nose of the liquid offers a slight caramel aroma. Since the juice was shipped first to BJ and then to me, I figure it’s...
  8. billherbst

    Slow Cooker Extraction of Tobacco and Tea

    No offense taken, papa. I have no problem with anything you wrote in your post. In fact, I have days---many of them---when I'm right there with you, when I'm entirely comfortable with my vaping hobby/obsession. On those days, my decision to vape, compared to the risks of smoking, seems savvy...
  9. billherbst

    Slow Cooker Extraction of Tobacco and Tea

    I've done many macerated extractions---more than 40---using various blends of PG/VG for solvent. Recently I tried a couple with 100% PGA. I then evaporated off the PGA under low heat and reconstituted the extract using PG. Initially, the results seemed acceptable, but over time I became less...
  10. billherbst

    The Really Big RY4 Roundup (long)

    Jerms, When I emailed Tony at Indigo to request review samples, I asked about the source of the natural tobacco flavorings---how they were made and where they came from. Tony didn't address my questions in his email response. Although Naturally RY doesn't taste like the typical Bulgarian...
  11. billherbst

    The Really Big RY4 Roundup (long)

    Specs: The 15ml bottle of IndigoVapor Naturally RY that was sent to me free for review by Tony, the owner of IndigoVapor, is a 12mg nic juice in a 50/50 PG/VG base. Color of the liquid is a light caramel, with no discernible scent. I let the bottle steep for four days before opening it. Testing...
  12. billherbst

    Slow Cooker Extraction of Tobacco and Tea

    My statement was not limited to a specific solvent. Geez.
  13. billherbst

    Slow Cooker Extraction of Tobacco and Tea

    That's what I meant. Not that the alcohol synthesized nitrosamines, but that the extract produced contained them. Yes, the nitrosamines are inherently present in the tobacco, and the solvent in the maceration "caused" (allowed) them to seep into the solvent. As for the polarity factor and your...
  14. billherbst

    Slow Cooker Extraction of Tobacco and Tea

    I noticed in a post about DIY the other day that someone mentioned not using alcohol in tobacco extractions because it produced nitrosamines (which are well-established as known carcinogens) in the extract. Did a little research online and discovered the abstract of a study confirming this. The...
  15. billherbst

    Regular Atty Drippers (A Dying Breed?)

    I was 61, having already logged 38 years of smoking mostly cigarettes. Haven't smoked one since then in almost four years.
  16. billherbst

    Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux

    I own three of those PMMA Kayfun Lite clones. I love the capacity, wonderful taste, and perfect draw they provide, as well as the light weight and how they look, but I hate that all three of them leak like sieves. The vacuum is really undependable no matter how they're filled. Actually, they...
  17. billherbst

    Vapers Tek E-Liquid and EU Nicotine now on ECF

    Hi Kevin, I want to chime in and add my two cents about how special Vaperstek liquid nicotine is. I've used liquid nics from ten different vendors over four years. Some were better than others, judged by the various qualities we associate with liquid nic---color, throat hit, bite, etc. If I...
  18. billherbst

    Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux

    MushroomVapes is yet another new NET vendor I just stumbled upon because of a deals-and-steals 30% off sale. Below is a link to their limited selection of 3 NETs (2 cig/RYOs, 1 pipe) in two sizes each (12ml or 30ml bottles). I don't find any info on the site about type of extraction or whether...
  19. billherbst

    Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux

    That all makes sense, Dusty. Huge air intake on the RBA, with multiple coils and ultra-low nic. Out of my league.
  20. billherbst

    Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux

    The vaping technique I've used since I started almost four years ago---mouth-to-lung---has remained the same. I seal my lips around the drip tip/mouthpiece with the delrin tip between my teeth. I don't "clamp" the tip between my teeth, but merely hold it lightly. (My drip tips are all delrin or...
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