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    Nah, I'm staying out of this... sounds like a troll.

    Nah, I'm staying out of this... sounds like a troll.
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    Is Big Tobacco really an issue?

    Still all off topic. Since I promised the Admin I would stay out of the childish stuff, I'll do so. That said, I've made rational points... Now... Y'all are on Your own. This is my last post on this topic.
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    Is Big Tobacco really an issue?

    Never learn.
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    Is Big Tobacco really an issue?

    Retired1 Thanks. I'm only here on this forum to learn and share what I've learned over the last few decades, (since 08). I was part of selling the Cig Like products out of a Mall Store 2 years after they were introduced to the public. We are all (or mostly) coming away from a Cig industry that...
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    Is Big Tobacco really an issue?

    Deviating off topic and slamming others? Is this how this site works?
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    Is Big Tobacco really an issue?

    Done..Narrow thinking disturbs me. You know nothing about me.. but I do of your ilk since You revealed Yourself.
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    Is Big Tobacco really an issue?

    If all that can be done is attack the messenger personally...That's not enough to be convincing. Show me...You are revealed and yet You no nothing about me... I might or not agree with You on political issues but we are far apart on facts. I don't deal in fantasy.,
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    Is Big Tobacco really an issue?

    Show Me... You have no clue of my political leanings. Lived in big cities )Detroit. Chicago) and opted out.. Truth be told I have nothing but angst to any Politician no matter what side they;re on. Lotta Judgmental stuff out of Y'all. I guess I was expecting better.
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    Is Big Tobacco really an issue?

    zoi... just recently bought the max available in my area of Nic. Was told by the store owner all that i could get was 6mg. Tried to order from Mountain Oak Vapors... Max available was 6mg. So if You have other sources... Reveal them!! or clam up.
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    Is Big Tobacco really an issue?

    Show me. Ya got no clue of how the next person is connected or their experiences... Stop pre judging or Prejudice'ing others. Doesn't look good on you.,
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    Is Big Tobacco really an issue?

    Works... As of last year''22-23'' we have 4 new vape / tobacco shops started up within a 15 mile radius of me... and I live deep in the Country. Gas stations everywhere also sell the disposables everywhere I go. They really can't ban the Batteries since they are not related to Nic usage and...
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    Is Big Tobacco really an issue?

    Yup... That's what i've been reading here for the last 6ish months here. What I haven't read is why and solutions. Keep your friends close and Your enemies closer...
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    Is Big Tobacco really an issue?

    Ok, Let tobacco back out and see how long our vape industries last, Lets see how long before we are regulated out of existence, What $$'s does the Vape Industrial complex have ...vs...Tobacco (who is vested in it) As said... Gov't has been trying now for some 20 years to eradicate us in tandem...
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    Is Big Tobacco really an issue?

    Show... So you think Gov't Regs haven't effected Tobacco? Lawsuits for $$Mills haven't effected them? Being kicked out of all Publlc Locations (with them following suit on Vap?) Who's distorting things?
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    Is Big Tobacco really an issue?

    I guess this won't be resolved here and i didn't expect it to be. My point is to know who has our backs and it's those invested in the Industry... (Tobacco has $$'s in the game) Are their reasons our reasons? Not by a long shot! Are they moral and principled? Nope! BUT... Are they at war with...
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    Is Big Tobacco really an issue?

    Never said Tobacco was a friend. What I claim is they are in the same fight we are. To survive their e-cig investments. I'll say it again... Are their tactics, ours? No but their intent is preserving profits,,E-cigs is a large portion of that. Thus an ally. Do I like their past or even present...
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    Is Big Tobacco really an issue?

    zoiDman near 30 years since the inception of the e-cig. In fact I was selling e-cigs when they were cig look alike in color and size.. sold the cartos and batteries... First of the products inception. Note the Cig industry will never recover to it's past (um) glory. Their sales are down buy...
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    Is Big Tobacco really an issue?

    Works for Me... To a point I agree to another thought not so much. Smoking Products have been losing market share for a few decades. Wether it's a push against tobacco or vape being introduced in ''cig like'' format, They were under scrutiny by Gov't, ALA FDA and a slew of lawsuits. Then they...
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    Is Big Tobacco really an issue?

    Likewise, since I'm from NC doesn't mean I'm tainted by Tobacco's influence. As bad as they have been they are now in alliance with us wether we like it or not. They are suppliers of Vape and Vape products.
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    Is Big Tobacco really an issue?

    I bring this subject up since I'm constantly seeing Tobacco Co's being bashed as the bad guys. Hey a lot of facts to that but wait aa minute. Tobacco Co's have been buying into the whole of the Vaping Products via Disposables. Thus I see them as a tool to fight Org's like the FDA , ALA and...
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