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  1. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    Source Your thoughts........???
  2. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    IF your reading that in the RedLine changes document it means zilch as in nada. It can be confusing. All that matters at this point is what is said in the Final Deeming published in the federal register on 5/10/16. Which of course is quite different that your quote. :)
  3. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    Good morning Girls and Boys :) For those that enjoy diving deep into the weeds here is the Deeming Final Rule Redline Changes. Thank you SFATA! Stay Strong! Fight! Stock Up!
  4. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    I think their is some push and pull when you sit down with the FDA. Their is a very interesting call in question around 1 hour and bro gets down into the weeds big time and the caller is very knowledgeable. Like testing for say Strawberry at the molecular level. HA! Not to mention our close...
  5. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    Found it Boys and girls. Shaun starts around 58 minutes. Enjoy! Please remember this is the North American President of FlavorArt speaking. aka "bro" :)
  6. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    FA sells ejuice ready to vape in the EU market. Example PB did a couple of factory tour videos and they are very impressive. I will try and find the link but bro Shaun who is the North American President of FA indicated they were going to get PMTAs. Since they are perhaps the worlds largest...
  7. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    Stay Strong! Please :) This is what works for me. Sometimes I'm just drained. Hours and hours on ECF and my web site research till I want to scream. My batteries are empty. I unplug from the WWW and hit the streets to talk to folks face to face. It's not only cathartic but provides me with an...
  8. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    In my previous post I talked about the Two Click Rule but my post could have been much better. Call that a Senior Moment please. Azim is one smart cookie. Extract from an attorney tiled "Current FDA Appears Not to Follow FDA’s Informal Two-Click Policy": "During the Bush Administration, FDA...
  9. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    +1. That's was my takeaway also. Their was a segment where Azim was talking about the content of web sites. My ears perked up when he was talking about "organization" web sites like CASAA etc. His first point was that if any of these organization web sites contain content that in some manner or...
  10. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    I see @Lessifer has answered you and +1 to those thoughts. Have you considered the other side of the coin? Meaning that the FDA WILL continue to tighten the noose during the two years + period. The Final Deeming is "foundational" and that's Zeller speak for more to come. It's crystal clear to...
  11. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    Appolagies in advance if this has already been posted. Thought I would drop this into the thread. It makes for some very very interesting reading and hopefully provides some of the core issues direct from one of the very best attorneys in the USA writing on behalf of SFATA. Way back in 8/14...
  12. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    Yikes.................... I guess most of us don't get it. /sar Apparently this vendor does (bolded by me): " “Altus T1,” by GuoVape Dubbed “the product that will beat the FDA,” Los Angeles-based physicist David Guo’s Altus T1 uses a high thermo-conductive ceramic instead of traditional coils...
  13. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    Because they are CHEAP. Think fire sale! Think "consolidation"! Happens in other industries all the time. Not sayin for sure. Just guessing. And the patent on VW? Held by Evolv. IMHO!
  14. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    Not to worry. I made the same mistake even though I'm perfect! /lol It's USER FEES and if you play in the FDA sandbox you WILL pay. Most everyone misses this point and that includes nearly all the experts ha! but you can't trump collective wisdom as in this thread. Period! Start here Dive...
  15. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    I sent Senator Johnson a thank you thing. I'm all for "hope" and for everyone to continue fighting for our rights in a manner and fashion of their choosing. Having said that, perhaps the following slice of data will add some measure of texture to some views of Senator Johnson. He is running for...
  16. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    Not sure if this has been posted so please humor me. I just love to read articles that among other things, drill down to greed, power, hubris, and of course insanity. :) Some of that here and bolded by me: The fundamental reason FDA placed the public at greater risk of the health problems that...
  17. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    Not really but their is no need to apologize and I'm not upset. If folks are satisfied or perhaps tolerant or resigned to the fact that the media continues to marginalize Vapers and never gives Vapers an equal voice then that's another option and I'm fine with any advocacy method that a person...
  18. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    The pic I posted was circa 1988 from the ACT UP/ACT NOW demonstration. It accurately portrays the affected demo: gay white men. Some folks went to jail. A time in our history when AIDS was devastating the gay community. The FDA was not only dragging it's feet by not introducing/approving new...
  19. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    Does this help any of us? It's a pic from an actual "street protest" and those are law enforcement folks standing and watching. If memory serves me correctly and at my age that's not always true but some of the protesters went to jail for a short time and then the on call attorney handled the...
  20. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    Let's try this: Caption: Vapers Lives Matter! More later. I promise. :)
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