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  1. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    No need to apologize. :) Civil discourse on either side of the issue is encouraged. My response is three words: Black Lives Matter Although parts of this movement didn't fit into the non violent civil disobedience mold, no one on planet earth or mars can deny the extensive and wide spread...
  2. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    I certainly agree in spades. I'm going to drop this thought and dovetail what you both said. It's going to be controversial for some and I hope and pray it's OK with the mods. If we agree that the goal is to obtain significant traction with the "mainstream" media and that includes all the TV...
  3. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    Apolagies in advance if this has already been posted and I hope it doesn't cause @KODIAK (TM) to hit the hard stuff again. /lol /joke Gerie Voss, supervisory regulatory counselor at the FDA’s Center for Tobacco Products. Listen to her tell a bold face lie during a radio interview. The host...
  4. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    Not to worry. :) I edited my previous post to include: (EDIT: better to read the entire page 104 for any hope of context and then maybe take a long walk on the beach. /lol /humor) Stay Strong! Fight!
  5. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    Interesting. Since I finally have the correct name as in user fees I should have checked the Final first. HA! My brain! I just searched the 134 pages of the Final published in the Registry on 5/10/16. Better triple check me /lol but no waiver of user fees. Matter of fact: Page 104 (EDIT: better...
  6. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    So...Girls and Boys :) I kept wondering what the FDA application fee is for a PMTA. After slogging through part of a webinar by the desk killers it turns out that IF you want to play ball with the FDA you pay a "User Fee" on a quarterly basis. Naturally it's laden with tons of bureaucracy...
  7. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    Exactly! I'm only aware of exactly one PMTA that has ever been approved which reinforces the "... no guarantee..." point you make. That's 100K pages from Swedish Match. Mike covered this issue in 2015. I admire the candor of the ProVape Blog post. Direct quotes from one of the owners. It should...
  8. SeniorBoy

    FDA Response to my inquiry from Nicotine Supplier

    OP: Thanks so much for the posts. I'm certainly willing to give NIC base vendors who sell a "finished product" more time to wrap their heads around the Deeming. However, I have a different view in some ways based on my reading of the Draft Guidance on PMTA I just covered this in my blog post...
  9. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    I'm sorry but I only have enough time to skim the last three pages. I certainly don't wish to sound like a broken record and as this thread gets longer and longer I'm not sure what folks have read. It's NOT "intended". NOT! PERIOD! It IS this: “intended or reasonably expected” catch all Used...
  10. SeniorBoy

    FDA Deeming FDA regulations regarding the DIY market

    Please note: A typical vendor who sells NIC base and I'm referring to a finished product would need around 40 PMTAs in total for all their skews. The calculation is: strengths (like 24 MG or 100MG as examples) + PG/VG ratio options (like 50/50, 70/30, 100% etc). Per skew. This same calculation...
  11. SeniorBoy

    Supreme RDTA by Steam Crave

    The only place I have seen this is the mother ship at Now Chase for Flavor! - Steam Crave, Aromamizer, Squonk Given the FDA Deeming and the low retail price point I'm not optimistic about a US vendor stocking these extras. I could be wrong though! Might as well grab some extra rebuild kits...
  12. SeniorBoy

    Supreme RDTA by Steam Crave

    OK boys and girls. My wick went dry again with my 65% PG love juice. So... I cranked out the 3.5MM bit and wicked the puppy with enough KGD to start my own Vape Shop. /lol So much cotton I had to burp the B___________ to get the bubbles flowing. To new to rate. Takes at least 20ML consumption...
  13. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    Good luck with your franchise. /sigh /sad
  14. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    The last question Dr. S takes was mine. I was checking to make sure I had both oars in the water before I blogged. After the answer I took another nap!
  15. SeniorBoy

    Supreme RDTA by Steam Crave

    The poking occurs after you have primed your wick or during the use of the tank. Remove the base. turn it upside down. You will see two holes on either side ticked underneath some metal round part. You should see some wick. I'm old so I'm using a magnifying glass light. Grab some wire and gentle...
  16. SeniorBoy

    Supreme RDTA by Steam Crave

    Is that 80% VG or PG? If it's 80% PG, your a friggin genius and I'm naming my next child after YOU! /lol /joke No one sells 80% PG so you must mix your own. Or maybe they due. I would love to see a pic of your 80% PG build if that be the case. Hey bro ej! I have more friggin bubbles than any...
  17. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    I received the following images via Email and then created a .pdf to make it easier to read and pass along to anyone and everyone. It's the very best Compliance Calendar I have seen. Complete FDA Deeming Regulation Compliance Calendar prepared by VTA (Vapor Technology Association). Stay...
  18. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    Hal Use this link etc for the final rule which was published in the Federal Registry on 5-10-16 May 10, 2016 – Final Rule Your letter has the "tease" aka pre thing. Designed to give us plenty of warning to stock up on combustibles. /joke breaks tension.
  19. SeniorBoy

    Supreme RDTA by Steam Crave

    I respectfully submit to the "clan" that it's about the viscosity of the juice when we are beating each other up in a respectful manner. /lol :) For me: 1. Dual fused claptons so I can be cool like bro ej!. /lol 80% VG juice. KGD wicked the same. Bingo! Perfect and no problems. Coils as close...
  20. SeniorBoy

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    With respect to NIC base. Direct from the Draft Guidance on PMTA and bolded by me: E-liquids 187 188 For the purposes of this guidance document, liquid nicotine and nicotine-containing e-liquids 189 (i.e., liquid nicotine combined with colorings, flavorings, and/or other ingredients) are...
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