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  1. SethG

    sour vapes anyone know how?

    Posted classified and contacted all who previously messaged me. FS: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/classifieds-swaps/153555-malic-acid-diy-sour-additive.html#post2495062
  2. SethG

    Vitamin Addative

    I'm with you completely. There is no way this molecule will survive vaporization.
  3. SethG

    sour vapes anyone know how?

    Actually, I just tried this with a mandarin orange flavor which I thought was lacking sour. Same proportions, 2 drops malic acid per ml. Now it gives that tingling sour sensation on the tongue. What keeps me wondering, the malic acid seems to cut through the sickly sweet of the ethy malto. This...
  4. SethG

    sour vapes anyone know how?

    Oh, UPS delivered! :D
  5. SethG

    sour vapes anyone know how?

    OK, I received the Malic Acid and thoguht I should post my results so far. I'll follow up later with a post and link to a post in the classified section. Need to work prices with shipping (up to 3oz), and I don't want to risk posts or thread removal for not following the rules. Stay tuned, or...
  6. SethG

    Pg vs vg ?

    Why not try both and see what you like? The base components are relatively cheap. Just mix up a small amount of each and see what you like. :toast:
  7. SethG

    PG questions

    Honestly, I'm guessing you'd be fine even if it did say for animal use only, I just wouldn't announce it to everyone. As previously stated, the other thing to make certain of is that it says USP. What brand is it?
  8. SethG

    sour vapes anyone know how?

    (Skimming though the patent) OH GREAT! If some corporation buys this gene patent I'm going to owe them money for my ability to taste sour things! Oh, I think it will work. Therefore if previous experience holds true my plans will fail miserably. :facepalm: :blink:
  9. SethG

    PG questions

    Reading back, I'm probably not being clear on the isomers issue. If I had a white board I would just draw it. Organic chemistry is nothing if not complex. 1,3-Propanediol (Common name Trimethylene Glycol) 1,2-Propanediol (Common name Propylene Glycol) Now, to say that both of these...
  10. SethG

    PG questions

    And I should go on to say, if the intended market is animal use they can avoid all of these headaches by stamping "not for human use" on the bottle. There is no mislabeling or misrepresentation here with this statement IMHO. The product they are selling isn't intended for human use and isn't...
  11. SethG

    PG questions

    @aprioristic The PG from the feed store also says "USP" which signifies that it was manufactured using the USP standard and should be consumable by humans and should be "as standard" as any other USP Propylene Glycol. My point is after the manufacture of it it had to be bottled, the company...
  12. SethG

    MadVapes 3.7v DIY box mod kit

    I ordered two! This should be fun, I love electronic projects.
  13. SethG

    Removing bottle labels

    Acetone also works well. If you have no acetone you can try fingernail polish remover which is basically acetone. The acetone will sometimes make the bottle turn cloudy though. The best seems to be naptha lighter fluid for me but I ran out. Works well for cleaning the thermal paste off...
  14. SethG

    DIY menthol flavoring suggestion

    The best I've heard comes from melting menthol crystals directly into your PG. Lots more on this out there, search the forums. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/search.php?searchid=1960870
  15. SethG

    sour vapes anyone know how?

    The malic acid has shipped finally, UPS says it will be here Monday.
  16. SethG

    PG questions

    Kind of along the same lines, there is this too. I've looked at a bottle of this at the local feed store and it states 100% USP Propylene Glycol. On another part of the bottle is says "For animal use only." Any ideas on how it can be USP and not be for human use? The only thing that I can figure...
  17. SethG

    The secret of RY4 flavoring? (Pandan)

    AFAIK the TFA Cotton Candy is just 10% EM in PG. I haven't tried them both so I can't say for sure. I think Hoosier may have tried them both? I also haven't read anything about using PGA to dissolve the EM but I'm sure people have tried. It's worth a trial. Have you ever felt so crappy...
  18. SethG

    Lorann Bakers Emulsions.....can I use them for DIY?

    @Hoosier Good catch, didn't see the Xanthan Gum. Much worse than the caramel color.
  19. SethG

    Lorann Bakers Emulsions.....can I use them for DIY?

    According to LorAnns (read here) it contains caramel color. It may work, but it will be damaging to your atty and they won't last as long. I would also question if this may contain diacetyl (scroll down to the safety section). More information is needed from LorAnns, you could write to them and...
  20. SethG

    The secret of RY4 flavoring? (Pandan)

    OK, received the ethyl malto today and I think it's going in the right direction. I mixed the EM into PG at 10% ratio by volume warming it with boiling water from a tea kettle to dissolve. Wow this is some sweet stuff... the aroma! My first trial of the two together is 5% Pandan and 5% EM...