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  1. Gauntlgrym

    it only costs $60 to test for D/AP

    well, better safe than sorry. don't know about you, but i started vaping as a "healthier" alternative. maybe you just didn't want to smell like smoke, i dunno. even if there is only a 10% chance DAP is bad.....i would rather not take that risk, if good tasting eliquids can be made without them...
  2. Gauntlgrym

    Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux

    thx, for the good info. yeah, i feel ya on the price. the only reasons i'm even considering it at those prices: 1) buy 5 get one free + a points/loyalty program. both combined bring the price down to like $22-23 for 30ml...about normal *shrug* 2) i would probably switch to a higher resistance...
  3. Gauntlgrym

    Have you ordered from Black Note ?

    yes, please let me know how they compare to NET.com. i am very curious about blacknote. might be picking up a "notebook".
  4. Gauntlgrym

    Natural Tobaccos - Part Deux

    hey, i was curious if any of the NET connoisseurs have tried "blacknote"? bad/good/great? is it really as high quality as they make it seem on the website, or just over-hyped like the other company with the cardboard tubes? i was also curious if there is an updated tier list from the first...
  5. Gauntlgrym

    it only costs $60 to test for D/AP

    exactly! the #1 expert in ecig/vaping research says this, and yet people still want to act like it's no problem or overblown. well, nobody is sick yet...so it's fine. that's like saying global warming doesn't exist, because it's cold outside today.
  6. Gauntlgrym

    it only costs $60 to test for D/AP

    you are kidding right? show me sick vapes or D/AP isn't a problem? c'mon man, i smoked for 15 years with no ill effects. does that mean smoking is not bad? people have been only been vaping for about 5 or so years, and the mass public has only been doing the subohm thing since the atlantis...
  7. Gauntlgrym

    it only costs $60 to test for D/AP

    you have to remember that the 2500ug is for 1ml. people with subtanks and drippers are going through 10-20ml or more per day. that's WAAAAAY over the standard.....so yes, the boogyman exists
  8. Gauntlgrym

    it only costs $60 to test for D/AP

    as i stated earlier.... people don't really care if the numbers are off by very very small amount amount. like if the 3mg nic had 8ug of AP, but the 6mg nic has 9ug of AP. fact is, we are happy enough to know it's low or ND. they don't need to test every batch. people just want to be sure that...
  9. Gauntlgrym

    it only costs $60 to test for D/AP

    the simplistic view is make what you can afford for the safety of the consumer! if you can only afford to fully test one flavor, then fine. only release 1 flavor. make some money from that flavor, then release more. one hit wonder only started with one flavor, and cyclops vapor only started with...
  10. Gauntlgrym

    it only costs $60 to test for D/AP

    charging $22 for something that cost $2-3 to make is not enough of a markup huh? :rolleyes: as we have seen with the vaporshark testing. even companies you thought were reputable might not be.
  11. Gauntlgrym

    it only costs $60 to test for D/AP

    vendors don't NEED to do different flavor levels or pg/vg levels. in fact most don't. look a giant vapes/vaporshark/eliquids.com, etc. none of the liquids they sell offer flavor shots, or pg/vg levels. if you can't afford to test the different levels, then don't do it. first off, you can still...
  12. Gauntlgrym

    it only costs $60 to test for D/AP

    the nic changes should not effect D/AP levels.
  13. Gauntlgrym

    anyone try TBD liquids?

    curious if they are any good. they do D/AP testing, and they are priced pretty well.
  14. Gauntlgrym

    it only costs $60 to test for D/AP

    why do you need to test every batch? you make a recipe that consists of A+B+C, then test that recipe to make sure it's D/AP free. if it is, then great keep making it. D/AP will not change on the next batch, as long as you follow the recipe 100%.
  15. Gauntlgrym

    it only costs $60 to test for D/AP

    first off, most new companies don't start off with a whopping 50 flavors, and most eliquid companies don't even HAVE 50 flavors. (keep in mind i said most not all) second, you don't need to test every nic strengh. nic has nothing to do with D/AP $600 bucks to test 10 flavors is cheap. if you...
  16. Gauntlgrym

    it only costs $60 to test for D/AP

    wow, didn't realize it could be done so cheap. why are ALL companies not doing it at that price? should be the standard! $60 per flavor is nothing considering normal business startup costs. hell, putting a nice tv in a new B&M costs more than testing 10 flavors. example: terponix.com
  17. Gauntlgrym

    The Diketone free tested vendors list

    organic is not the same as D/AP free. organic liquids can have high levels of D/AP possibly, but i have always been a "better safe than sorry" kind of person. not sure of all effects, but a lung transplant is the only way to get rid of it. just google it. hasn't really occurred yet in...
  18. Gauntlgrym

    The Diketone free tested vendors list

    very layman terms: they are chemicals that could possibly cause popcorn-lung (very bad), and good tasting juice can be made without them. if you buy liquid that has D/AP, you are taking an added risk that you shouldn't need to take.
  19. Gauntlgrym

    The Diketone free tested vendors list

    found this company called "TBD liquids" (the best damn). seems they test and most are D/AP free. they seem to have good prices too. surprised i have not heard of them. anyone try them before? any good?
  20. Gauntlgrym

    anything smaller?

    anything on the market smaller than an istick30w? also, is the ipvD2 the smallest of the removable 18650 devices? ***needs to be able to sub-ohm, and hit at least 30w for both questions***
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