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  1. sofarsogood

    Michigan Gov Whitmer releases vaping ban rules...

    The restricted items seems to be any flavored eliquid--with a "characterizing flavor" other than tobacco. That seems like it's not intended to apply to unflavored liquid with nicotine. That would seem to leave the door open to DIY for personal use.
  2. sofarsogood

    Michigan Gov Whitmer releases vaping ban rules...

    Does rule 5 apply to everybody or only resellers? What would it take to discourage most of the kids? If they had to mix? May be that would be enough. There must be some kids who need ecigs to keep off cigs. I also suspect there are people, including kids, for whom nic is medicinal. I...
  3. sofarsogood

    e-cigs hysteria now hitting Ontario, Canada

    I live in SE michigan near downtown. May be I'm jaded by my own arrangements (DIY and rebuilding for years). Getting back and forth from Detroit to Windsor is not as easy as in the past. It's hard to believe driving the tunnel for a few bottles of eliquid would be worth the bother. My view...
  4. sofarsogood

    Michigan Gov Whitmer releases vaping ban rules...

    Meaning she is an attorney. My best understanding of the rules, so far, is that adult Michigan residents can buy whatever thay want from out-of-state, so long as it remains for personal use. Somebody please correct me if I've got that wrong. So far my impression is the same is true in NY. It...
  5. sofarsogood

    Michigan Gov Whitmer releases vaping ban rules...

    The rules are being pushed stupid fast because the NY and MI governors are in a publicity race to claim first in the nation. This would be a good measure of their concern for the public welfare. A Michigan vape shop owner comments in a news story that the emergency order is likely to be...
  6. sofarsogood

    New York just banned flavored e-cigs, starting immediately

    You make valid observations. The shop owners justify what preserves their business model, not necessarily what might be best for former smokers trying quit and stay quit. I have mixed feelings about the vape speciality shops. I visit a couple may be once a year and rarely find anything I want...
  7. sofarsogood

    BT is NOT Trying to Kill Vaping

    Most of the revenues from cigarette sales ends up as payment/taxes to governments. If tobacco is a drug governments are the grand daddy of drug cartels by far.
  8. sofarsogood

    India is banning all e-cigarettes

    India produces a high percentage of the world's liquid nicotine. The above says no exporting of vapor products? How was liquid nicotine used before vaping? Can it still be exported?
  9. sofarsogood

    New York just banned flavored e-cigs, starting immediately

    I'm listening to the youtube video of yesterday's health department hearing in NY. It confirms something about who's interested in this issue and who's not. The public speakers are vape shop owners and tax supported agencies and organizations, and a few vaping consumers representing...
  10. sofarsogood

    Are you done stocking up?

    My system, a 1 liter bottle of nic is transfered to a 1 liter amber glass bottle for long term storage and labeled with nic strength, the word "nicotine", invoice date, and vendor name, I put that in a zip lock bag, wrap in bubble wrap, put that in another zip lock bag and store on the shelf of...
  11. sofarsogood

    New York just banned flavored e-cigs, starting immediately

    The NY vape shops have nothing to lose now by going to court and asking for an injunction to delay this. My view is they should have a strong case in their favor. I've seen what seem to be well informed statistics about vapers state by state. For instance Michigan may have 420,000 vapers...
  12. sofarsogood

    New York moving forward with flavored ban on eliquid.

    These state bans threats are surreal, publicity stunts. Below is a Michigan shop owner from a rural area describing his customers to a legislature committe looking into the governors emergency order. He makes some very good points about who are the vapers. He could just as easily be in NY...
  13. sofarsogood

    How Important Were Flavors to Help You to Quit Smoking?

    I was a dual user for 6 weeks. Over that time I noticed my palette changed in favor of the eliquid flavors and against the taste of cigarettes. Finally cigarettes tasted wretched. If you gave me a magic pill to make me immune to tobacco harm and an unlimited supply of free cigarettes I'd turn...
  14. sofarsogood

    Vaping, teens & parents

    My understanding is the FDA is sponsoring research into cigarettes with almost no nicotine. The idea has been around for some years. What they have done lately I don't know. Why are they foot draging? Seems like a good idea to me. I tried to find where someone might buy cigs with no...
  15. sofarsogood

    Vaping, teens & parents

    In principle I would accept banning ecigs if tobacco was also banned. Otherwise, this order of priorities is corrupt and misguided.
  16. sofarsogood

    What are vape shop owners supposed to do?

    The question asked, what can we do? One of those things is write to your legislators and the Pres. CASSA has made that easy to do. When you put in your zip code everything is set up. Write your own message or not. The gun people cling to life because they are politically active. Vapers can...
  17. sofarsogood

    Vaping, teens & parents

    It is simplistic to believe that successfully denying kids access to vape gear is always the right thing. I remember my first puff. I was watching my companion with no interest UNTIL he made a smoke ring. I had to try that. I've written here many times, I wish ecigs had been around when I...
  18. sofarsogood

    Vaping, teens & parents

    It's hard to understand how this poison thing happened. I remember starting out I was keenly interested in how we know eliquid is safe to vape. How we know is many decades of experience prior to vaping with VG, PG, and nicotine. And then the flavors come from reputable companies with plenty...
  19. sofarsogood

    What are vape shop owners supposed to do?

    I see CBD in local vape shops. Several carry many glass bongs, some quite pricey. I don't know if an of these shops will be allowed to sell recreational weed which was legalized recently by referendum with sales starting in months. I don't see how vape only shops stay viable wihout flavored...
  20. sofarsogood

    Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

    Vaping has been elevated to the Oval Office. Wow. May be there are things we can do so it turns out to be a good thing. Any ideas?
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