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  1. jpargana

    Why certain regulations and bans make perfect sense

    Sorry, but I believe you are being unfair... nobody said they wanted unlimited freedom... but on the other hand, we surelly do not want unlimited prohibition !! Particularly when that prohibition does not arise from legitimate and proper health concerns, but rather from ideology and economic...
  2. jpargana

    Why certain regulations and bans make perfect sense

    This. The Tobacco Directive that is being discussed in the EU initially stated: no refillable atomizers, only sealed, child-proof atomizers containing no more than 20 mg/ml nicotine, and no more than 10 mg nicotine in a single atomizer (that would be 0.5 ml of a 20 mg/ml e-juice)... 'because of...
  3. jpargana

    World Vaping Organisation.

    Well, not exactly... it's a grey area. :) Some of the people who are actually defendind the e-cig here in Europe, because of the 'secret negotiations' that are currently taking place, have come with the argument that the same liquid nicotine we use, is also used by BP. And yet, pharma...
  4. jpargana

    World Vaping Organisation.

    It only takes a few seconds to register... we need the strength of numbers...! We need to make such noise, that those bureucrats and dirty politicians will have no other option than to LISTEN to us. The real PEOPLE who have elected them! :grr:
  5. jpargana

    Unfortunately, indeed... I'm proud to be included in the 'commom sense' vapers club... :)...

    Unfortunately, indeed... I'm proud to be included in the 'commom sense' vapers club... :) By what I've been seeing lately, our numbers must raise quickly. It saddens me to see more and more people here in EFC, in 'our own home', sort of speech, parroting the same old lies the ANTZ's have...
  6. jpargana

    You're welcome !! I do like your posts... you do have a good head on your shoulders... :toast:

    You're welcome !! I do like your posts... you do have a good head on your shoulders... :toast:
  7. jpargana

    No Ecigs allowed

    C'mon... really ?? Everyone is bound to eventually do something that might make someone uncomfortable. We had several examples on this thread already, so I'm not even going to repeat them. So, it's utopic to believe that everyone has the right to be 100 per cent confortable, while dealing with...
  8. jpargana

    They may try to stop you

    ROTFLMAO !!! I get it... "iron fist in a velvet glove", and all that... If memory serves me well, the conversation ended by the second time the new expert stressed the point that "nobody knows what's in there". My smart-... friend just took the juice bottle from his pocket, and started reading...
  9. jpargana

    They may try to stop you

    Yes. I know just exactly I you feel. I had someone (a friend of a recent convert, friend of mine) scolding us because of the e-cig, while smoking tobacco herself: "we would be better off with a cigarette"; "no-one knows what's in there", "you two should think twice before using that just because...
  10. jpargana

    We Vapers are Screwed!

    This. On the other hand, we do not see ANY governmental agency crying out loud for a ban on tobacco cigarettes if/when an irresponsible vendor happens to be caught selling tobacco to minors. (The kind of vendor who used to sell me tobacco, when I started at the age of fifteen). When that...
  11. jpargana

    EU The consultants of the EU commission proposals-under the microscope

    "By the power invested in me by the King of Cats, I accept your apologies..." :lol: :lol:
  12. jpargana

    EU The consultants of the EU commission proposals-under the microscope

    Oh, come on... really...? Cats are cute... can we leave them out of this, please ?? Comparing cats to the EU Commission is just uncalled for !! :lol:
  13. jpargana

    EU The consultants of the EU commission proposals-under the microscope

    This. I mean, how can anyone even think about making legal decisions that will affect millions of people, without even trying to get a grasp on the subject, is beyond me... A lot of kids, with a simple computer and internet connection, seem to gather more reliable information while doing a...
  14. jpargana

    American Lung Association against e-cigs

    Well, the problem is that FDA has been behaving like any other ANTZ organization regarding the e-cig. Just look at how biased FDA's studies were, and how they were conducted and publicized. I'm not sure if we need, or will ever get, the approval from a biased and corrupt organization, that puts...
  15. jpargana

    American Lung Association against e-cigs

    Yes. We, the users, the real people who have tried and failed several times, we have 'unapproved' the BS they sell us the moment we picked up an e-cig !! :toast:
  16. jpargana

    EU Latest leaked proposals from EU Commission

    That's why we must keep showing them... These are buttheaded people (?), but maybe, just maybe, they'll understand in the end, that we vapers stand United, and shall not have their BS... :)
  17. jpargana

    EU EU Commission "compromise" like Big Tobacco product!

    Suffocate is not enough... It would be safer, and funnier, to make sure those lobbying, unelected bureaucrats choke on it !! :mad:
  18. jpargana

    American Lung Association against e-cigs

    @Masterchief68: Somehow, it always makes me mad when FDA starts talking BS about 'their' safe (Chantix) and effective (In about 5 per cent of users) quitting methods...
  19. jpargana

    CASAA's letter to NYC Officials

    I do want to believe that. I do... but seeing what's up in Europe... trying to ban the e-cig for the second time in only a month and an half... :(
  20. jpargana

    E-cigarettes: Should They Be Regulated as Cigarettes?

    The sad part is, if we happened to be actually harming people, but without making those lobbies losing boatloads of money, we probably would not see all the fear-mongering and lies we have to endure right now... :(
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