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  1. Bones

    Urgent E-smokers Unite!

    Yea but that is the problem here - There are not enough e-smokers to sway an election - They respond to Media Pressure even more - They hate bad press because then the numbers increase - This isn't even on their radar yet - Many of us have already written them and gotten form letters from...
  2. Bones

    Will you fight...........be honest?????

    To hell with Njoy - This is mostly their fault -
  3. Bones

    Urgent E-smokers Unite!

    This is a media battle - Those guys don't give a flying F---- - Krakkan is right - This is about getting the story out (THE WHOLE STORY) to the masses - Senators and Congressmen don't even read the Bills they sign -
  4. Bones

    Fda news release

    Overall what the FDA did with this is to PROVE that E-Cigs are 1000 times less harmful than analogs - The amounts they found are barely worth mentioning - That's why the actual data is in the footnotes and not in the main body of the findings - I love the part where they say New Zealand's tests...
  5. Bones

    Will you fight...........be honest?????

    Right now I feel like this - - - This is the moment that led to ordering E-Juice from China becoming possible - Can we bring Guillotines? - I mean - Why not make a full day of it? ;)
  6. Bones

    Smoking Everywhere V. FDA Daily Docket Sheet Update--APPEAL's COURT ISSUES STAY

    It has nothing to do with where the juice comes from - Those same chemicals are in their precious Nicotrol too - Hell - Some of them are in your Ice-Cream - They are playing with words - It's not that they are there that matters - We knew they were there - What matters is how much is there - FDA...
  7. Bones

    Smoking Everywhere V. FDA Daily Docket Sheet Update--APPEAL's COURT ISSUES STAY

    Yes - Well - I take no offense as my opinion was offered before I had seen the Press Release - Now - It is all too clear that this case is just a step in the dance and means nothing - All that is left now is to Fight! They play the media - We play the media - SHOUT THE TRUTH FROM THE...
  8. Bones

    Smoking Everywhere V. FDA Daily Docket Sheet Update--APPEAL's COURT ISSUES STAY

    As I understand it - They are the ones who must prove the charge that the FDA overstepped authority in stopping their shipments - I agree with what you said - That seems to be the way it is from what I have read here - I'd love to be told it Lawyers have a way of making you think you are crazy...
  9. Bones

    Smoking Everywhere V. FDA Daily Docket Sheet Update--APPEAL's COURT ISSUES STAY

    What I suggested does not require a court battle - Just a repackaging and changing of the advertising -
  10. Bones

    Smoking Everywhere V. FDA Daily Docket Sheet Update--APPEAL's COURT ISSUES STAY

    Sun's previous post - Don't thank me :) You may write Judge Leon at the following address The Honorable Justice Richard J. Leon Clerk's Office United States District Court for the District of Columbia 333 Constitution Avenue, N.W. Washington, D.C. 20001
  11. Bones

    Smoking Everywhere V. FDA Daily Docket Sheet Update--APPEAL's COURT ISSUES STAY

    Well - To be fair - It is SE and NJOY that have brought the FDA into court - Not the other way around - The FDA will stop shipments - The FDA does not need to take legal action if they already have legal authority -The burden of proof in this case is on SE/Njoy - Not the FDA - Here is an...
  12. Bones

    Smoking Everywhere V. FDA Daily Docket Sheet Update--APPEAL's COURT ISSUES STAY

    From the FDA letter - We focus on the product's "intended uses." FDA considers ALL of the circumstances surrounding the marketing of a product in determining its "intended uses." See 21 C.F.R. 201.128. The key elements in evaluating these products is whether they are intended to affect the...
  13. Bones

    Smoking Everywhere V. FDA Daily Docket Sheet Update--APPEAL's COURT ISSUES STAY

    So the answer to my question is - NO - :)
  14. Bones

    Smoking Everywhere V. FDA Daily Docket Sheet Update--APPEAL's COURT ISSUES STAY

    Sun - I have asked this before and not sure if there was a solid answer - or that there can be - Has there ever been a statement from the FDA saying that they want to impose a TOTAL BAN? Now or in the future? - I see them repeatedly stating that the e-cigs need to be submitted for approval -...
  15. Bones

    Isopropal Alcohol

    I prefer to drink Vodka in large quantities ;)
  16. Bones

    Isopropal Alcohol

    BLU -??? - - - - There is your problem! That's a dirty word around here -
  17. Bones

    Now is the Time To Act! I am Serious! **updated**

    That is about current devices made to be e-cigs - New devices produced after the fact and labeled as "aroma-therapy" or "herbal-vaporizers" are an entierly different subject - Volcano Vaporizers - Herbal Vaporizers - Tobacco Vaporizers - Herbal Vaporizer - Buy Vaporizer - I was speaking more to...
  18. Bones

    Now is the Time To Act! I am Serious! **updated**

    To AVOID revolution - ! - Did you vote on the Iraq war? NO! - Just had enough folks to keep us busy arguing among ourselves rather than banding together and storming the Bastille - I did not practice doublespeak - Nor do I appreciate your condescension by insinuating that I don't know what...
  19. Bones

    Now is the Time To Act! I am Serious! **updated**

    Man - I have to wear an overcoat when it hits 65 - :oops: This Cajun boy don't do cold -
  20. Bones

    Now is the Time To Act! I am Serious! **updated**

    I'm just amazed they know it has to do with money and not some sort of national park - LOL Ok - I'll bring my Guillotine - I still got a big dose of French in my blood - Looks like the same set of circumstances to me - I got your CAKE!