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  1. dragonpuff

    No solid evidence that e-cigarettes aid smoking cessation unlike the nicotine patches, gums and medications approved now

    On the main forum page, if you scroll down there's a forum for polls under Community.
  2. dragonpuff

    FDA So what might really happen with regulations/bans? Should we be stocking up?

    Back in 2009 they were trying to cram e-cigarettes into one category or the other - either a drug delivery device (i.e. medicine), or tobacco product. Many of us argued for tobacco product. Why would we do that? Because if it were classified as a drug, ALL e-cigs would be yanked from the...
  3. dragonpuff

    FDA So what might really happen with regulations/bans? Should we be stocking up?

    I really hope you're right Zoidman. Personally I notice a distinct difference in my mood and ability to focus when I drop from 24 to 18 for just a day, so I really hope the powers that be retain a vested interest in allowing the nic level to remain high (though I do have cognitive problems that...
  4. dragonpuff

    FDA So what might really happen with regulations/bans? Should we be stocking up?

    Think about it. They've been talking about lowering the nicotine content in cigarettes for years, in an effort to "reduce addiction" (not that it will help with that, but whatever). Obviously that would be difficult to do, partly because it involves modifying a plant and partly because tobacco...
  5. dragonpuff

    Is it time to boycott CVS? The 'no tobacco' policy may be worse than you thought

    Personally I think it helps, if you do it respectfully. Sure if you stand in the middle of the drugstore blowing giant clouds of vapor in to the ceiling, people might feel affronted, and it would hurt the cause. But if you're stealth vaping discreetly and not bothering anyone, I can't see it...
  6. dragonpuff

    Is it time to boycott CVS? The 'no tobacco' policy may be worse than you thought

    I did my due diligence and shopped at CVS today, for the last time in what will be a long time I'm sure. On my way in I overheard a cashier saying to a customer that they will stop selling cigarettes as of Monday. I looked at the rows and rows of cigarette packs behind the counter and wondered...
  7. dragonpuff

    FDA So what might really happen with regulations/bans? Should we be stocking up?

    What I meant was "if", as a hypothetical worst case scenario. Even so, while they can't ban nicotine outright, it is within their power to strictly limit the amount of nicotine to the point where it is no longer effective for the vast majority of people (e.g. they can't reduce nicotine to zero...
  8. dragonpuff

    FDA CDC again grossly misrepresents NYTS e-cig youth usage data to deceive, scare and lobby for FDA deeming reg

    Interesting. This is far beyond a statistical fudge; the CDC flat out lied about the numbers. Is there any way to get that out in the open? We're going to be hearing that 263,000 number for a long time, and I'd like to see some balance in the reporting (i.e. to hear reporters say "some...
  9. dragonpuff

    Telegraph article claims "i was smoking the equivalent of 40 cigarettes a day"

    Bill Godshall posted this article in another thread (in addendum to what else was going on there, on page 4 or something), and he described this article as "truly pathetic" :D my sentiments exactly. Get ready, we will see more sham stories like this down the line as our conflict heats up... the...
  10. dragonpuff

    No solid evidence that e-cigarettes aid smoking cessation unlike the nicotine patches, gums and medications approved now

    That really depends on the study. I believe most of these studies didn't measure how much a person vaped per day, only the nicotine level were recorded. If you want to prove simply that vaping can help you quit smoking, that is really all you need. If you want to show how much someone vapes...
  11. dragonpuff

    FDA So what might really happen with regulations/bans? Should we be stocking up?

    We need to also keep in mind that even if only nicotine liquid were banned, since this is the key selling point that leads to vaping in the first place, sales will likely go down considerably over time. Most people who vape for nicotine will have to find other nicotine sources, and they will...
  12. dragonpuff

    No solid evidence that e-cigarettes aid smoking cessation unlike the nicotine patches, gums and medications approved now

    There is a lot more than the NZ study now, that was just the first major one. Look up studies by Farsalinos, Palosa, and Capponetto - most of their studies use cigalikes (mainly because they each take at least a year or two to conduct from start to finish, and that's what was available at the...
  13. dragonpuff

    FDA So what might really happen with regulations/bans? Should we be stocking up?

    I'm glad you mentioned this. As I've stated in a few other threads, I've recently returned from a 4 year hiatus and thus missed a lot of the earlier discussion on the regulations (I have asked in a few other threads about this going to court but no one responded - presumably because it had...
  14. dragonpuff

    FDA So what might really happen with regulations/bans? Should we be stocking up?

    I agree. I am about 99% certain that the deeming regulations will be revised at least once more before they take effect, given all the punctuations throughout it with "FDA seeks comment on blah blah blah..." I doubt that the revisions will be major or favorable to us in any way, but when they...
  15. dragonpuff

    No solid evidence that e-cigarettes aid smoking cessation unlike the nicotine patches, gums and medications approved now

    There are several clinical trials showing that e-cigarettes are more effective than patches; not by much, but enough to be statistically significant. I know that at least one or two clinical trials were done using second generation eGo style equipment and they did show a much higher success...
  16. dragonpuff

    FDA CDC again grossly misrepresents NYTS e-cig youth usage data to deceive, scare and lobby for FDA deeming reg

    Excellent rebuttals from Carl Phillips, as always! :thumb: An excerpt: So what did they find? They reported that according the 2013 NYTS, 263,000 never-smoking American youth, grades 6-12, had ever tried one puff of an e-cigarette. The lies start here. They describe this as “used e-cigarettes”...
  17. dragonpuff

    Is it time to boycott CVS? The 'no tobacco' policy may be worse than you thought

    I think what he's pointing out is the infiltration of CVS by both the CDC and ALA in the name of both an anti-smoking campaign and a push to encourage "approved" quit-smoking strategies. Not to mention this comes right on the heels of the latest anti-vaping propaganda push. It sounds to me...
  18. dragonpuff

    Is it time to boycott CVS? The 'no tobacco' policy may be worse than you thought

    :lol: That is AWESOME!!! :D Watch, we find out that for every dollar donated by a CVS customer to the ALA, GlaxoSmithKline will make another bribe.. er, "donation" of $100,000! :laugh: This is why I like my small town, privately-owned pharmacy :) just business, no bull.
  19. dragonpuff

    FDA CDC again grossly misrepresents NYTS e-cig youth usage data to deceive, scare and lobby for FDA deeming reg

    Fumes? Really?? Sounds like they think it's best for you to buy marginally effective and overpriced nicotine gum from one of the pharmaceutical companies they're in cahoots with. Or maybe they think you should get a prescription for a potentially dangerous drug so they can barely cover the...
  20. dragonpuff

    Interesting and fairly neutral article in Nature

    Personally I think the reporter did a decent job making Glantz look like a buffoon by showing the criticism of his work right in the article :) as an objective reader (if I knew nothing about the subject beforehand), I would read that and afterword gloss over anything else in the article...
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