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  1. shanagan

    Vaporbomb... Bad bad Experiance

    What an uncalled for, reading comprehension fail of an addition to the thread. The pile-ons that are allowed are unbelievable.
  2. shanagan

    The Anti-Hysteria Over Diacetyl Thread

    Yep, exactly. The trick would be how to prevent it being heated enough to produce vapor - because even juice in carts produces vapor, you have to assume even that is enough heat to vaporize the liquid. And in this once case, w/the flavorings, that's what we don't want.
  3. shanagan

    Vaporbomb... Bad bad Experiance

    It is, but the flavor carrier is PG. (Hypnotic Mist is a FlavourArt.com flavor - and it's only available with a PG flavor carrier.) That's kind of the issue.
  4. shanagan

    The Anti-Hysteria Over Diacetyl Thread

    I've got some thoughts on how it could be done. It just takes some doing. :)
  5. shanagan

    The Anti-Hysteria Over Diacetyl Thread

    LOL, your delivery system just needs work.
  6. shanagan

    The Anti-Hysteria Over Diacetyl Thread

    You got it, BassA. And I caught that edit, thanks, Atty. The VERY first thing I thought of was a candy tip, then pulled back because of the anti-issue. But think about how EASY a solution this is! Not to mention, for those that want to, a lozenge-type candy that you sucked during vaping...
  7. shanagan

    The Anti-Hysteria Over Diacetyl Thread

    Essentially, yes. I think there are a number of ways you could go about it - but think about it... PG and VG should be handled fairly easily by our lungs - let's make that "should" according to the research I'm looking at from Dow - and nicotine puts us at or about the same amount of risk for...
  8. shanagan

    The Anti-Hysteria Over Diacetyl Thread

    I'm leaning towards unflavored, to be perfectly honest, Atty. But I've also started to think there's a much simpler solution. Separate the flavors from the vapor. Simple.
  9. shanagan

    The Anti-Hysteria Over Diacetyl Thread

    That's what I'm saying though (in reply to the bolded above) - with disclosure you can continue to vape, while truly embracing harm-reduction by electing to avoid certain troublesome ingredients. (And please note, I mentioned that symptoms can present suddenly, but death by death of your...
  10. shanagan

    The Anti-Hysteria Over Diacetyl Thread

    I've asked this before: Why choose to put yourself at risk for potential lung disease if you don't have to? Presumably you vape because it's safer than smoking. So what if via simple disclosure you can avoid a chemical that may cause even more catastrophic lung damage than smoking? (BOS is...
  11. shanagan

    Vaporbomb... Bad bad Experiance

    I think this is an excellent approach. Whether the concern is PG/VG, or diacetyl/2,3 pentanedione... the industry needs to start acting like an industry. It's time for US vendors to follow ECITA's lead and form a trade association which works to create industry standards with an eye toward...
  12. shanagan

    The Anti-Hysteria Over Diacetyl Thread

    FWIW, I think some people just want the conversation to continue, without appearing "hysterical" - after all, the post you quoted was posted by someone who agreed that a letter to vendors requesting disclosure was a good idea.
  13. shanagan

    The Anti-Hysteria Over Diacetyl Thread

    Thanks to another poster feeling the need to call people "hysterical"* again, I revisited a few older posts. This one in particular needs to be addressed - 2,3 pentanedione is being used in some US flavorings, Linda from PA has confirmed that she does use 2,3pent (aka acetyl propionyl), and it...
  14. shanagan

    The Anti-Hysteria Over Diacetyl Thread

    I'm sorry, explain the difference, exactly, between wanting disclosure and... wanting disclosure? Is it who says it? Sing it, brother. Also, chemophobe? Is that like a fear of scientific words. (Hellenologophobe.) The word doesn't create the danger, Bill.
  15. shanagan

    Diacetyl is in tradition cigarette's. Why the outcry in E-Cigs? Just don't smoke the contaminated flavors

    Travis - that's the sole purpose of the diacetyl/2,3 pentanedione discussions - we're just attempting to narrow down some of those chemicals that have been linked with harm in both real-world applications and laboratory testing. The problem is, "the industry" as we know it has NO standards...
  16. shanagan

    GP will not be shipping parts of this week--Please Look!

    Best of luck to you, Rob!
  17. shanagan

    Pure Vapes Ordering Thread

    Nikhil, I'm sorry to hear about your dad. Families are... complicated, and of course even more so if there is a drinking problem involved. (I married a man of Irish descent from NY, and I'm from Texas... trust me when I say, drinking problems are always involved in this family sooner or later!)
  18. shanagan

    Just got my Big Big order.. and.. need some help here...

    I realize it's listed in the tobacco section, but FA's site is vague - they don't describe it as a tobacco or with tobacco undertones - just (as FS copied to their site from FA's): "Our first proposal. Complex and intriguing, sweet but gentle. A good vape after a tough day." Ditto to the other...
  19. shanagan

    Just got my Big Big order.. and.. need some help here...

    Hypnotic mist is definitely not a tobacco flavor - it is a fruity herbal (AtomPunk thinks Fruit Loops, I thought it tasted a bit like the violet flavored French pastille candies w/the anise seed inside). I've never noticed any soapy undertone to it, at all, and am wondering if there's an off...
  20. shanagan

    Ask your favorite suppliers to remove diacetyl from their e-liquids!

    Bingo. This has been discussed ad nauseum, this is not a blacklist crusade against any vendor or flavoring company, despite the desperate measures of some to paint it as such.
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