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  1. shanagan

    Diacetyl Containing Liquids Safety Discussion

    I never said CASAA was not working to promote the availability of smokeless alternatives. I understand that your mission is keep the product & information available. I stand by my statement that there is no interest in the safety of liquids for sale, based upon the discussion I've seen on the...
  2. shanagan

    Diacetyl Containing Liquids Safety Discussion

    The first recipe I came across used 36mg nicotine containing pg at 2.5ml, pg or vg at 1.5ml, and 1ml of flavoring. So if my math is right, that is 20% flavoring. (Note, that's just one recipe, I realize these are fluid amounts based on preference.) So from there, if butter contains 1.5%...
  3. shanagan

    Diacetyl Containing Liquids Safety Discussion

    I completely agree. I think many of us feel that switching to a harm-reduction nicotine product was a life-saver, and have taken up the cause whole-heartedly. But there needs to be due-diligence on all sides. Vendors - even those with an exclusive agreement with one flavoring company - should...
  4. shanagan

    Diacetyl Containing Liquids Safety Discussion

    Before the last thread closed, I was in the middle of typing a response which unfortunately required quite a bit of research on my part. What I'd like to do is go from there (what I'd like is actually immaterial, but hey, I can toss it out there!). A comment was made that basically, if we...
  5. shanagan

    Diacetyl Containing Liquids Safety Discussion

    Looks like we'll have to keep this going elsewhere. So, here! The "anti-diacetyl" thread was shut down in the middle of a discussion per the thread starter's request, and the *other* diacetyl thread is getting unmanageable size wise, so I figured a new one couldn't hurt. Please remember, as...
  6. shanagan

    The Anti-Diacetyl Meeting Room

    Sticking one's head in the sand in re: potential danger does not solve anything. We all know there are people (hey, like smokers) who will stick their head in the sand and ignore health risks as long as someone, somewhere says "hey, no need to panic here."
  7. shanagan

    The Anti-Diacetyl Meeting Room

    Before one more person says AGAIN that we don't know that harm has been shown at levels in the .02 ppm range, please, PLEASE read this 6 factory study published in 2006.(I've posted it about four times already, but have received zero response upon this link, so I will post an excerpt of the...
  8. shanagan

    Ask your favorite suppliers to remove diacetyl from their e-liquids!

    My entire point is that it is a reduced-harm nicotine product. But you have to be able to safely say it is reduced-harm before you can add the rest of the sentence - "nicotine product." The addition of diacetyl equates our product with a "or, yk, maybe not - but who cares!" product. Either...
  9. shanagan

    Ask your favorite suppliers to remove diacetyl from their e-liquids!

    Sorry, FieryOne - meant to quote your reply but apparently it's like 1:something or other in the morning here and I'm finally getting sleepy. Oh, I saw you in the other thread today and assumed you'd been keeping up with the discussions on diacetyl in the general e-smoking forum but...
  10. shanagan

    Hey Vapers! How much juice do you go through in a week?

    About 2ml a day. What, you thought I couldn't post here? ;)
  11. shanagan

    The Anti-Diacetyl Meeting Room

    No problem. Also, I'm an Aggie now, apparently I just need to get used to this "W T F" feeling in re: football. And everything. LOL ;)
  12. shanagan

    Made it 6 days without an cigarette

    Woot! I'm 3 days away from 3 months analog free. I have never, EVER felt so great about something. Well, yk, maybe successful kids/20yr marriage/happy dog. WHATEVAHHHHHH, I am a nonsmoker! N O N S M O K E R.
  13. shanagan

    The Anti-Diacetyl Meeting Room

    Completely. (Btw, good game - arrrrrghhhhh!)
  14. shanagan

    Ask your favorite suppliers to remove diacetyl from their e-liquids!

    I missed this earlier, sorry for the late response. No, I absolutely think you're wrong. (Uh, sounds harsh.. but wait...) I do not want you to vape this stuff at all, I don't. I think it hurts the industry and community as a whole. Not to mention "you" - who I'm sure I'd like if we were...
  15. shanagan

    What's the first color that comes to mind

    I think it's because most of us equate the color red with passion, love, and stop. So, you know.
  16. shanagan

    Is there any DIACETYL in any of your e-liquid or flavors you use to make your e-liquid?

    Ha! It must be your dashing avatar. Or, I happened to head there after here. And it is but isn't the topic here, but I'd hate to see this turn into a battleground when really it's all Harry's show.
  17. shanagan

    Ask your favorite suppliers to remove diacetyl from their e-liquids!

    Keep reading. Start at page 1.
  18. shanagan

    Is there any DIACETYL in any of your e-liquid or flavors you use to make your e-liquid?

    You might want to wander over to the General E-Smoking Discussion board rather than go off topic with debate here. ETA: Nevermind, you found the party.
  19. shanagan

    Is there any DIACETYL in any of your e-liquid or flavors you use to make your e-liquid?

    Harry didn't say that the international supplier was audited or diacetyl free, only that they were fda approved. The fda allows diacetyl as a food flavor. Harry uses Hypnotic Mist and Zen Garden, which are FlavourArt's own blends. Draw your own conclusions. That's what we're supposed to be...
  20. shanagan

    Ask your favorite suppliers to remove diacetyl from their e-liquids!

    You'd think, since it would have been the obvious answer from the start. But you know, if wishes were horses, all men would ride.