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  1. Zelphie

    Flavors that may contain Diacetyl, are there really this many?

    Thank you for that link! I was unaware that if you opened the "list" you could get more detailed information.
  2. Zelphie

    Flavors that may contain Diacetyl, are there really this many?

    Diketones can be used in tobaccos, and if they are NETs without any added flavor, (to the tobacco itself or in mixing) I have to wonder if diketones are naturally present in tobacco as it is with some things. And if so, was it removed? I don't know who can answer that.
  3. Zelphie

    Flavors that may contain Diacetyl, are there really this many?

    Nope,Im sure its BS. Nevermind, I just looked, ya, its a most generic form of BS. As a side note, they don't test for what they don't know about, so that "free of things that cause known inhalations risk" is only as good as what is known to them, what things they think they should be concerned...
  4. Zelphie

    Flavors that may contain Diacetyl, are there really this many?

    What always confuses me is that many claim to have removed diacetyl, but there is NO meantion of the absence or removal of (acetyl propionyl) 2,3-pentanedione, (acetyl butyryl) 2,3-hexanedione, (acetyl valeryl) 2,3-heptanedione, acetoin and diacetyl trimer. We all hear about acetyl propionyl and...
  5. Zelphie

    Who sells hard PET plastic bottles?

    Cool find, thanks PET dark colored droppers would be perfect.
  6. Zelphie

    Who sells hard PET plastic bottles?

    Thanks! I didn't see them at ECX but there they are.:)
  7. Zelphie

    Flavors that may contain Diacetyl, are there really this many?

    Pretty much by just .....ing about it year after year. Wish I could vote with my wallet, but again w/o disclosure catch22.
  8. Zelphie

    Flavors that may contain Diacetyl, are there really this many?

    :D love that! Purchased from ironyvapes. or sarcastivapes. Someones gotta make it now!
  9. Zelphie

    Who sells hard PET plastic bottles?

    Im looking for the hard PET bottles, but cant seem to locate them at any DIY suppliers. Looking for small and medium sizes. Do you know of a place that I could get some of those who also sell syringes as well? Thanks!
  10. Zelphie

    MUCH cheaper PG & VG than EssDepot

    Who does do the manufacturing that sells to the ecig community, cause Id like to purchase as close to the original suppliers if possible. I just have a weird thing about things being bottled and rebottled and rebottled ect.
  11. Zelphie

    MUCH cheaper PG & VG than EssDepot

    I have no idea, I haven't been involved in those discussions .Nicotine river just says that its from dow. I don't know if being a middle man makes a difference. Perhaps just a lie. My bad,... it doesn't actually say it, it just has a pic of Dow trademark and their (maybe their) MSDS sheet.
  12. Zelphie

    MUCH cheaper PG & VG than EssDepot

    1 gallon is $20 at nicotine river. But in general yes, Im referring to smaller quantities.
  13. Zelphie

    Comparisons of Pg and Vg from diff places

    Has anyone tried Nicotine River pg and vg? Its super cheap, they claim 99.7% pure and have msds coa sheets.
  14. Zelphie

    MUCH cheaper PG & VG than EssDepot

    Super prices on Pg and Vg from Dow @ Nicotine River if anyone is interested. Suplier of NicSelect as well.USP Propylene Glycol MSDS and COA also provided MSDS and COA Let me know if anyone is using them! Another cheap source 99.9 pure with MSDS and COA...
  15. Zelphie

    Flavors that may contain Diacetyl, are there really this many?

    The creamy, custard type flavors are the most commonly known but it can be found in other flavors as well even fruits, tobacco, tea, coffee, vanilla, caramel, honey bread/cake ect. Can be. Its naturally occurring in many flavors, not just creamy ones. The question is, to me anyway, is if its a...
  16. Zelphie

    Nicotine Comparisons

    Does anyone here use NicSelect nic made by Alcheminternational? Ive used it in juice made by eliquid vendors (Ahlusion mainly) but not in DIY. Confusing, its super clean in Ahlusions juice but ECX and MFS is peppery. I Dunno..:confused:
  17. Zelphie

    Need tips on the least complicated cleaning methods?

    I don't know, good question though.
  18. Zelphie

    Flavors that may contain Diacetyl, are there really this many?

    http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/technical-research/206355-testing-flavors.html#post4276857 Scroll down to Markarich159 for an interesting post of testing and FA stance back in the day.
  19. Zelphie

    Flavors that may contain Diacetyl, are there really this many?

    I truly believe TW wants to downplay the importance of the issue. Ive been doing business with them for almost 5 years and there has not been any expressed interest in addressing their liquids in regard to certain ingredients. They don't say what they consider unsafe levels and no mention of AP...
  20. Zelphie

    Nicotine Comparisons

    Ok, thank you. I wasn't sure if people were using the term interchangeably. I love a good nic tingle! But pepper, not so much.
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