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  1. NorthOfAtlanta

    FDA FDA e-cig workshop starts 8AM (Eastern US time) on Dec 10, agenda stacked with staff from FDA and other federal agencies and many ANTZ

    For an example, see Washington DC. :D:vapor:
  2. NorthOfAtlanta

    FDA cliff notes on fda?

    This conversation has done much to show that it will be interesting to watch this worm its way through the courts if someone does market a non-tobacco liquid. I personally think the FDA will try and get congress to give them authority over nicotine period, as otherwise people will continue to...
  3. NorthOfAtlanta

    FDA cliff notes on fda?

    Derive - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary Seems to disagree with you. And here is a high nicotine non-tobacco theoretical source. Cultivation project: Duboisia hopwoodii How long will it be in court again?
  4. NorthOfAtlanta

    FDA cliff notes on fda?

    Sorry, I think you are wrong this is the kind of thing that gets tied up in courts for decades and the FDA knows it. With their record on court cases involving this they don't want to go there.
  5. NorthOfAtlanta

    breaking news,child dead after ingesting nicotine.

    The main reason I made the 24hr comment is the study Vocalek referenced in this post; http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/media-general-news/490883-shockingly-bad-local-article-7.html#post11304013 Over 27 years there were 2 possible accidental deaths caused by nicotine ingestion, both...
  6. NorthOfAtlanta

    Hawii Five-o Nicotine Poisoning?

    double post can a mod close this one?
  7. NorthOfAtlanta

    Hawii Five-o Nicotine Poisoning?

    The way it was done just seemed like the e-cigarette comment was inserted to make sure everyone watching would know e-liquid was dangerous. It came across as a slick piece of propaganda to me.
  8. NorthOfAtlanta

    Hawii Five-o Nicotine Poisoning?

    Sitting here watching one of the few shows I like and the method of poisoning was liquid nicotine in a drink. Knowing what I do I kind of snickered until the emergency room room doctor made the comment that it was readily available because of e-cigarettes. The ANTZ are invading our TV programs...
  9. NorthOfAtlanta

    Hawii Five-o Nicotine Poisoning?

    Sitting here watching one of the few shows I like and the method of poisoning was liquid nicotine in a drink. Knowing what I do I kind of snickered until the emergency room room doctor made the comment that it was readily available because of e-cigarettes. The ANTZ are invading our TV programs...
  10. NorthOfAtlanta

    FDA FDA e-cig workshop starts 8AM (Eastern US time) on Dec 10, agenda stacked with staff from FDA and other federal agencies and many ANTZ

    On worn out batteries, mine go in the dead battery box at the local home depot. I just put them in a small zip lock bag and drop them when I go there.
  11. NorthOfAtlanta

    breaking news,child dead after ingesting nicotine.

    24 hour rule time, I'm waiting until something besides rumors and headlines come out to even start forming an opinion.
  12. NorthOfAtlanta

    FDA FDA e-cig workshop starts 8AM (Eastern US time) on Dec 10, agenda stacked with staff from FDA and other federal agencies and many ANTZ

    Didn't someone warn them about outsourcing closed captioning?
  13. NorthOfAtlanta

    FDA cliff notes on fda?

    I would bet that with $2.5 billion and climbing in sales that someone in this technologically advanced field is working hard on this now. :D:vapor:
  14. NorthOfAtlanta

    FDA cliff notes on fda?

    Zeller stated that if the nicotine is not derived from tobacco the FDA has no way to regulate e-cigarettes in a question and answer session right after the deeming regulations were dropped. It is their worst nightmare as at that point they would have to go to Congress to get authorization to...
  15. NorthOfAtlanta

    Meta analysis of 6 studies finds 18% smoking cessation rate for smokers who tried e-cigs, published in AHA's Circulation

    Time for a press release? E-cigarettes are more than 2.5 times as effective as pharmaceutical options for smoking cessation. That's how the ANTZ use this type of abstract but no one selling them can use it, it's just the truth. :facepalm::D:vapor:
  16. NorthOfAtlanta

    anybody watch dr oz today?(ecigs)

    My opinion of Dr Oz, snake oil salesman with a degree. (Hi Stan) :D:vapor:
  17. NorthOfAtlanta

    Pima County may vote to refuse to hire smokers

    Sounds like they owe us a lot of back tax money, we've been paying for the healthy people. :facepalm::vapor:
  18. NorthOfAtlanta

    FDA FDA opens docket for public comments on agency's so-called scientific e-cig workshop Dec 10/11, comments due April 15, 2015

    This is something to point out to our congress critters, if they aren't going to use it for the deeming why are they spending the money to hold the conference? Personal opinion, they're doing it so they can tell congress and they public that they held X number of conferences before they...
  19. NorthOfAtlanta

    New concept: Tobacco Control-related death

    Hanity went off on the same thing , I think it was yesterday afternoon.
  20. NorthOfAtlanta

    Intermitten Database Errors

    Don't know if it helps but one time for me signatures were gone and the like feature was a totally different format.
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