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  1. NorthOfAtlanta

    FDA Boehner asks FDA to move Grandfathering date to April 2014 or time of final rule

    One other thought on this, if e-cigarettes take over the market with a non-tobacco sourced nicotine the tobacco growers will go under, might be worth pointing this out to the tobacco growing states. Chemically the same but e-cigarettes can't use it.
  2. NorthOfAtlanta

    FDA Boehner asks FDA to move Grandfathering date to April 2014 or time of final rule

    They can only be considered tobacco products if the nicotine is sourced from tobacco. If another source is found or someone develops a reasonably priced synthetic nicotine the FDA would have to start over as the courts have already said they cannot regulate it as a drug. Any bets that someone...
  3. NorthOfAtlanta

    FDA The FDA and Pharma: Big Drug's Nicotine War

    If you check the publication dates you'll see that this one is the 10 year update on the one Anja found, Hers is from summer 2001. Both are well worth the time to read. I knew that the BP/Foundations/FDA/CDC/Alphabet groups were incestuous but did not realize how deep it was.
  4. NorthOfAtlanta

    Prefiled Virginia bill (HB 1310) for 2015 would tax vapor products at $.40/ml of nicotine containing liquid, require tobacco licenses for e-cig distri

    EPA rules, inspections are required only in metro/county areas over a certain population level. Can't blame this one on local laws.
  5. NorthOfAtlanta

    Slowing cigarette sales could put Virginia tobacco bond payments at risk

    If you want to know who makes the most take home cash from tobacco sales this paragraph from this Forbes article http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielfisher/2014/05/28/philip-morris-international-bets-big-on-the-future-of-smoking/2/ says it all.
  6. NorthOfAtlanta

    FDA FDA changed deadline for signing up to speak at Dec 10/11 e-cigarette workshop, prevents e-cig advocates from speaking

    And this is the question that should be asked in every letter to congress and every post on a questionable news story. We are being far too polite to people who are doing their best to bury us trying to maintain their cash flow.
  7. NorthOfAtlanta

    The Billet Box Temporary Thread

    Nice digs for a temporary thread. Just a post so I can find it. :D:vapor:
  8. NorthOfAtlanta

    Call to Action for Madison, Wisconsin

    Here's another fact: If the business allows vaping DO NOT patronize it. It's called choice.
  9. NorthOfAtlanta

    First 5 San Diego is asking awmakers to tax electronic-cigarettes or increase existing taxes on tobacco products.

    There is a poll on this one and it needs our votes. Should a sin tax apply to e-cigarettes?
  10. NorthOfAtlanta

    ~The Billet BoX~

    Looks like USPS has their computer on ZULU time (GMT), I just got one that said the label was created at 1:26 pm today that was sent at 8:36 this morning. :D:vapor:
  11. NorthOfAtlanta

    FDA NEW: "...Experimental Studies on Consumer Perceptions of Modified Risk Tobacco Products"

    I'm assuming that Modified Risk Tobacco Product has to be on the label somewhere and yet this says you can't inform anyone that it is one. I mean isn't a MRTP by definition less harmful. Don't you just love circular logic and bureaucratic BS. :facepalm::vapor:
  12. NorthOfAtlanta

    ? Another reason to use a wall wart?

    From the Guardian: Now e-cigarettes can give you malware | Technology | The Guardian
  13. NorthOfAtlanta

    US DOJ: Encryption could get a child killed

    Another swipe at those who enjoy food to much, they're getting their ducks in a row. Obesity Affects Number Of Those Eligible For Military Service « CBS Baltimore
  14. NorthOfAtlanta

    Australian politician exposes the real motivation for tobacco taxes and efforts to ban ecigs

    I still think that BG has the most to lose, both in the taxes we wont pay and added medical costs for the extra years we will live. A significantly larger number of us will now live long enough to draw more SS and medicaid. Remember that PMIs CEO said that out of every 20 cigarettes they sell...
  15. NorthOfAtlanta

    Get ready for a tax on "excess" pounds

    Say that fast and it pretty much describes both groups. :D:vapor:
  16. NorthOfAtlanta

    17 Nov 2014: Firestorm Erupts in Anti-Smoking Massachusetts Town (Good one!)

    People who have to much time and nothing to do but hassle their neighbors. One HOA was fining a vietnam vet who had military stickers on his car. Your basic petty tyrants.
  17. NorthOfAtlanta

    Update: Westminter BOH gives up on tobacco ban

    I wonder if she will end up in the witness protection program?
  18. NorthOfAtlanta

    17 Nov 2014: Firestorm Erupts in Anti-Smoking Massachusetts Town (Good one!)

    She sounds like a member of a HOA board who made it above her level.
  19. NorthOfAtlanta

    FDA NEW: "...Experimental Studies on Consumer Perceptions of Modified Risk Tobacco Products"

    That's interesting, wonder what they are changing? If they put it back up I'll compare it to the PDF I downloaded yesterday. :D:vapor:
  20. NorthOfAtlanta

    Two new papers by Lorillard find no health concerns for ecig vapor

    First thing I noticed was they are not hidden behind a pay wall as most of the glANTZ papers are. Must mean they have nothing to fear on how they were conducted. No "science" by press release which means the main stream press will essentially ignore them due to the source. :facepalm::vapor:
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