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I guess our state employees don't really know state law too well. The answer to number one is illegal per the state constitution...taxes must be applied uniformly. They can't tax an entity based on what they call themselves...hell we have an adult toy store called "condoms galore" that has more...

I spoke to one shop over the weekend, their answer to what they are considering as taxable items for the floor tax was all juice and all hardware, to be safe. TO BE SAFE! We do not pay taxes on "ideas" or "intent", this is a joke and amounts to consumer fraud perpetrated by the state!

Oh I agree wholeheartedly, however I think there may be a premise here. Most laws rely on intent. The intent of this act is to provide a basis for taxing "electronic cigarettes" and I'm going strictly by their words in saying that parts or components are not explicitly identified as taxable...

So...apply that to a battery. To a mod that is sold without a battery or atomizer. To an atomizer that is sold without any sort of power supply...not one of those items can be defined under the law. Assembled together, yes they can, but separately? The code doesn't mention parts or components.

I'm going to try to arrange a meeting with my rep and of I get one, I'm going to take the items I mentioned in the original post as well as a single battery, a coil, and some other new items that are "components" and ask her to explain to me - using the tax code - how each one is subject to...

Thank you. This gives some great info to present to my local rep (who did not agree with the tax). The fact that even a handful of experienced vapers can't reach an easy agreement on the terms says a lot. Regarding that QnA bit about what's taxed...that hardly helps a consumer. And again...

The "or both" refers to an item having: A) a battery B) an electronic circuit C) a battery and an electronic circuit So to fit the definition of a taxable "electronic cigarette" the item would need to have one of the three above conditions in place AND a heating element. This is tax, it needs...

"An electronic oral device, such as one composed of a heating element AND battery or electronic circuit, or both, which produces a vapor of nicotine or any other substance and the use of or inhalation of which simulates smoking." That it. Caps on the important "and". I'll use my Smok Hpriv as...

In the definition of an "electronic cigarette".

That's right, with Pennsylvania's vape tax taking effect in less than a month, I as a consumer am very concerned. You can talk to different retailers and ask "What exactly IS going to be taxed?" and you're almost sure to get a different answer every time...from "EVERYTHING!" to "Who knows?". I...

If push comes to shove, juice makers who get pushed out of business should simply fly a big ole bird to the Feds and BT and post their recipes online. I know if it were me and my business was going under due to the regs, I'd rent space in an overseas server and do everything I could to help...

Back to the OP...the reason "why"... taxes. Now technically "regulatory fees" aren't supposed to be revenue makers, but they DO create government jobs. So there's a lot of it right there, good old MONEY. But there are hidden things that look little or even nonexistent to many but are a...

I must live on a different planet. I'm in the Lehigh Valley PA area - yes PA where we have the 40% tax coming in a month - and I have yet to see a shop close or even threaten to close. While at its core wrong and unfair, the tax itself targeting wholesale prices is more of a nuisance than...

Given the act's definition of "electronic cigarette" all of the above mentioned brands will be taxed as will their refill cartridges. In fact, it's written more towards the mini-mart realm imo. I was telling someone just yesterday it looks like they got their basic vape knowledge from a 7-11...

Is there really part of this discussion debating how much would be a reasonable tax for us to pay? Hell they give incentives for people to "go green"...they should be doing the same for us who quit smoking, as they have been asking us to do for decades and now don't like the financial...

PA (or any) Facebook users I know it's been mentioned before but please if you see threads on the subject speak out! We are not being taken seriously if we aren't being heard. Search FB for CBS Philly, scroll down a few posts and you'll see a story asking for thoughts on the tobacco tax. Please...

And here is the real issue, the FDA regs. The PA thing really is, imo, more like the mob moving in. They see a niche market with great big margins operating on their turf, they want in. The real problems are yet to come, and they begin in just over a week.

I know of a couple shops who actively engage their customers on the issues, though much of it was too late I think. I'm in the Lehigh Valley area and have yet to see a shop saying that this was forcing them to close. Remember this is 40% of wholesale, take a look at the piece of equipment in...

I'm not seeing them be so generous. There are numerous things they placed in the act that could be used to nail DIY guys. For the record I do myself and fully intend to continue to. But just their definition of tobacco products is damning because it covers anything that is put into any device...

I'm missing the "for profit" part in the regs. I do see where any effort made to evade paying tax is a criminal offense, and where possession of any tobacco product that has not had the tax paid on it is a crime.