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Excellent advice guys. thanks! DannyV your advice is certainly my long term solution but... for now i have a good bit of money sunk into diy supplies and none to spend on commercial juice :) so i wanna have a good starting place that others might like/suggest and work off of that. JD1 thanks...

Hey there everyone, I am gonna try and make an RY4 from the ground up and i have the following choices of ingredients in my arsenal. Hoping to get ideas on which base-tobacco, caramel, vanilla, additives and percentages to try. Sure appreciate it! i have these flavors for... Tobaccos...

Looks like everyone is out of the Hang-RY1!!! checked rts, bullcity and ecigxpress

thanks so much everyone. great suggestions. Everyone appears to be out on Hang-RY1... bullcity, rts and ecigxpress! dangit!

That is sort of what i am looking for the custom/dessert type RY4. Just enough tobacco to say its in there. :)

Hey TC, wasn't super impressed with the GwaRY4. Was hoping for good things from it. Not enough caramel/vanilla. Just a little strange. So not sure :)

Hey Blueser, shooting for that route as well. Have another post about light tobacco for a base. The Hang-RY1 has been mentioned before. I would prefer a nice light tobacco with the caramel and vanilla stronger. Maybe a hint more vanilla coming through. Maybe even a real low smooth cream taste...

Thanks for the ideas everyone. Have heard the hangsen RY1 brought up a few times. May try it this order. Will take a look at the others as well. Any more thoughts?

Thanks so much for the info everyone. Definitely gonna give the RY4D another try. May try one of the others this order as well! Anyone tried the FA version of RY4 Grace and Peace, Jon and Amanda

Was wondering your thoughts on the best all in one RY4 flavoring. Got some ry4d from WL's about 6 weeks ago. Several around that time myself included were concerned about its lack of flavor. Gonna try some more from BullCity. Was shooting for a tribecca type custom RY4 taste. I know Inawera, FA...

Looking for a nice light tobacco flavor to build upon. Would like to make some fruity/nutty tobaccos, a custom RY4 from the ground up, or a dessert type tobacco. Maybe even add a little backbone to a juice i have already made like a hazelnut/vanilla. Some of the commercial tobacco ejuices i...

Thanks for the info. I will give it a go at 15%

Haven't contacted yet but will monday. Thanks

Thanks so much for the info everyone! Really appreciate your thoughts. Bad batch or mislabeled seems to be the answer. At 8% i should be tasting something! I will see if WL will do anything about it. If not will try to order from TFA direct or rts and see if its better. Man i so wanted to have...

Hello all, Did 1st diy batch last week. No nic, 60/40 pg/vg w/ 8% RY4D. Just vaped some in a bridgless atty and there is literally no flavor. Just a hint of sweetness. It is totally clear not hardly any hint of aroma to the juice.? I am absolutely sure the flavoring was added, as i am quite...

Just bought 50 ml of the ry4D last week from WL and it was clear and almost tasteless as well. Was my 1st go at diy. At 8% nothing... Anyone ever check with WL about this. thanks, JonG

had the same problem. paid 99cents for red dragon vapors ejuice calc. seems pretty decent, nice simple interface. Like it!:) grace/peace, Jon and Amanda

hey there, any thoughts or ideas about this??? thanks so much

Hey all, recently bought the atomic clone from an unmentioned vendor. Service great no probs with order but i notice most of the ehpro atomic clone pics i see has the atomic logo on the airflow ring, this one does not. Should it? The main chamber also fits really loose. When i try to screw it...

Boletus, good advice. I think you are right. I believe i will follow your advice and do about an 8% RY4D and and 8% oba oba. thanks so much Jon and amanda