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As the survivalist saying goes: "two is one and one is none." So, two. But if you want to keep the redundancy status secure, then three. If you want that whole package of redundancy secure, then duplicate it... so 6. And if you want to keep the redundant redundancy package safe... 9. :D...

I suspect nothing will survive. Substantial Equivalence is the writing on the wall. SE, will I think, paradoxically and somewhat ironically, ensure nothing remotely like the open system we have now is ever approved. If the FDA approves even a single combination, it opens the door to endless...

Excellent and very solid / encouraging points of logic in the lawsuit, as was your breakdown and commentary of it. Nicely done, Kent!

When explained like this, these regulations almost sound ridiculous. :lol: Seriously, this may be the best "executive summary" ever written.

To add insult to injury, I would not be surprised if focus groups revealed that while some youth respond to the (surely) FDA's oversimplified stereotype of them -- glomming on to bright colors, "cartoons" and candy flavors -- just as many hipster, vaping-bound youth would delight in the exact...

Thanks. This is the first tiny notion of "good news" I've considered thus far. If it turns out there's a magic pathway to at least one PMTA acceptance, for something that resembles a modern, temperature control system, there's hope. Speaking of TC mods as one of the many things we stand to...

Does anyone know if the FDA is planning to release key parts of its criteria for PMTA acceptance. E.g., the list of undesirable components tested for in the aerosol and pass threshold amounts for each one? Or, is it going to remain a complete secret so that manufactures that submit their...

The FDA would have deemed The Doctor's Sonic Screwdriver a tobacco product, on the grounds it contained a power source and software "capable of controlling the variable frequency and amplitude of waves necessary to potentially heat a liquid suitable for the purpose of vaporization."

So, surely the FDA will grant one or two uninspiring vaping devices, built from the ground up, that are likely highly "medicalized," have tiny liquid capacities and most certainly will be lacking in aesthetics, and overall desirability. A sort of "there, you got something." If so, the irony...

It's giving me the same result. What input is giving you different results?

Hey. Just ran the numbers: .22 + .01 = .22 x (1 + .00092) x (t-20)) = 69 C / 156 F change in temp for a .01 change in resistance So that definitely seems like what is going on. This is what makes TC such a challenge. For grins and giggles to see how other options fair: with a comparable wire...

The probe I have has a really small bead at the end that I can get touching against a spaced wrap without any shorting issues with adjacent wraps. It's tricky though.

Yes, I've come to the same skeptical conclusion. My current approach is to make sure the coupler is touching tight against the inside of the middle-most wrap (where it heats first and greatest); inside, so that it gets some of the accumulated heat from neighboring wraps via radiation-heat. My...

Thanks, will dig further. Their marketing team produced an entire landing page, complete with fancy illustrations, yet somehow managed to avoid mentioning the wire material (unless I missed it somewhere). :lol: Sounds like this product is one that may need to be tested with temp probes. I...

Will do. Do you have the specs? If not, I'll attempt to hunt them down. BigEgo's good thoughts on this, notwithstanding. I've been meaning to get my hands on these coils to test.

Updated! Additions or changes since last update will have a :headbang: icon next to them: Nickel DH: 0.007036 Joyetech Format: 0704 Ni200: 0.00600 (According to Steam-Engine.org) Joyetech Format: 0600 Reliant/SXK Format: 69 Ni200: 0.00620 (According to @DJLsbVapes and other sources) Joyetech...

Hey, cheers. Temp protection hitting early is usually normal and just a sign of it working correctly. Especially for temps under 500F. It's (of course) not cutting power off completely, just regulating it. The smaller the build, the faster it might kick in (less mass to heat). Even when vapor...

Correction to my mini review... Once again, Joyetech's invisible screen protector makes things look worse than they are. After removing the protector on the front face and +/- buttons (yup, it's there too), the screen is flawless (for acrylic). The only way to get the screen protector off was...

Oh, that's riiight...forgot about that safety feature. I guess they could add that "feature" via firmware.

Bah, I'm an idiot. Of course you're right ... no thermocoupler on the board! (that we know of)