“Do bans help or hurt e-cigarettes?” (Kokomo Tribune)

[Tom09]

A local news story from Kokomo, IN (kokomotribune.com, June 16, 2011).

There have been few conclusive studies about what is going into the lungs of electronic cigarette smokers and anyone near them. That has left debates open on whether the government should regulate them as if they were traditional tobacco products.

 

[Thulium]

“What I can tell you is that the model legislation that is recommended by [the American Nonsmokers’ Rights Foundation], they are encouraging e-cigarettes to be included in legislation,” Sneegas said.

Follow the money: RWJF

 

[sqirl1]

Follow the money: RWJF

never heard of RJWF until I just explored their site, care to explain how they .... people over?

 

[Vocalek]

So let's see, Johnson & Johnson, makers of Nicorette products, started the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, which gave Americans for Nonsmokers Rights a grant of $3 Million to help wipe out the competition for J&J products. Is that correct?

 

[sqirl1]

So let's see, Johnson & Johnson, makers of Nicorette products, started the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, which gave Americans for Nonsmokers Rights a grant of $3 Million to help wipe out the competition for J&J products. Is that correct?

thanks for the clarification.

 

[Thulium]

So let's see, Johnson & Johnson, makers of Nicorette products, started the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, which gave Americans for Nonsmokers Rights a grant of $3 Million to help wipe out the competition for J&J products. Is that correct?

Not just the competition for the Nicorette products, but smoke-free alternatives could reduce SMOKING that causes diseases that are treated by other Johnson & Johnson products as well. If smokers are truthfully informed that they can eliminate 99% of the harms of tobacco use by switching to a smoke-free alternative, it could be a serious threat to RWJF's stock portfolio reducing available funding for ANR.

 

[rothenbj]

You nailed that one. It's truly all about the money. Sell medicine (can you really call NRT or Chantix such) to cure a disease (okay, I realize that smoking/tobacco disease might be a bit of a stretch) that you know keeps 98% of the patients (well, if you've got a "disease" and you're giving someone "medicine", you have to consider the recipient a "patients" now don't you?) in their diseased situation and things are sure to get worse. But they have more therapies for that too. All in the name of public health.

 

[Vap0rJay]

You nailed that one. It's truly all about the money. Sell medicine (can you really call NRT or Chantix such) to cure a disease (okay, I realize that smoking/tobacco disease might be a bit of a stretch) that you know keeps 98% of the patients (well, if you've got a "disease" and you're giving someone "medicine", you have to consider the recipient a "patients" now don't you?) in their diseased situation and things are sure to get worse. But they have more therapies for that too. All in the name of public health.

Reading your post made me think of this short from Red Dead Redemption

 

[DC2]

never heard of RJWF until I just explored their site, care to explain how they .... people over?

I believe you want to read this...
The New Corporate America Business Model

It explains who RWJF is, what they are doing, and why you should hate them.

 

[rothenbj]

Yup DC, that pretty well spells out the associations.