The 2009 Smoking act gives the FDA the power to change ALL cigarettes sold in the US and that's what they propose to do, not by adding air to the smoke, but by reducing the nicotine content of the tobacco to negligible levels, not because nicotine is harmful in itself, but because it is believed to be the principle ingredient that creates dependence on combustible tobacco cigarettes. If zero nic cigs don't create dependence in kids it's an interesting idea. We care about the kids, right?
This is from the FDA site
Only because that is what we have been told for all these years. I have come to believe we have been fooled by smoke and mirrors. I was guilty of thinking I smoked to get my nic fix when in fact it wasn't just the nic I was craving. In my personal opinion removing the nic from smokes will do no good at all. It will just cause smokers to smoke more because one of the most benign ingredients that they have come to expect will be gone.
Gottlieb proposed to reduce nic in cigs to a non addictive level, not zero. If nic is barely detectable my guess is the smoker will smoke less or not at all. Likely behavior could be determined with research. I believe there has been some of that.
Most of us were young and dumb when we started smoking but at that point we felt invincible. It is one of those, "if I knew then what I know now", things we would never have done. I am just so thankful that young folks (and some of us old folks) now have a better option.Not when I started, no. I was 18 and knew everything back then. But as of the past, oh, 12 years or so, I have considered my cig habit both not so smart and extremely dumb. Assuming a lower IQ didn't do much to save me from the perils of addiction, though vaping certainly helped (I still do plenty of dumb stuff, however). I just don't smoke.
Fixed that for those that are reading this. The statistics are manipulated to say what the alphabets want them to say. When a smoker dies or gets sick it is always the smoking that caused the sickness or death. I could accept a sickness or death being caused by smoking if it was something that only smokers suffered but at this point even heart attacks are blamed on smoking. The ad on TV says so, so it must be true.
for the rest of the message though. I truly do believe that if vaping is left to grow and the bad press is reversed we could see the end of folks getting hooked on combustible tobacco use in the not to distant future.
I am curious. I am wondering what level would be considered a non-addictive level. Either nicotine is addictive or isn't addictive. I am in the camp that believes it isn't addictive when separated from cigarette smoking.
Those are questions that might be answered with research that's already been done. What if kids who only have access to ultra low nic cigs never get addicted to them. If true that would be an important finding. If smokers who only have access to ultra low nic cigs ended up smoking 80% fewer cigs that would be an important finding too. I suspect both are true but may be some studies would clarify that.
I would never try to claim that I know what is in another persons thoughts but it seems to me that you believe that it's mostly the nicotine in smokes that has gotten generation after generation of folks hooked on smoking whereas I think it is the act of combustion and the chemicals released by burning. I fear even no or low nicotine smokes will be just as habit forming as what we have today. Only time will tell.
I am really glad I can understand sarcasm when I see itWell nicotine IS the demon and we All need an exorcism!
Especially the smokers!
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I also believe all teenagers need to go through government funded mind control.
End of "for the children "
Thank you for the clarification. Sadly, so many of us started smoking well before we realized the danger of our decision
I will be the first to admit that I do not know. I also don't know that there aren't folks out there that have quit smoking with plain PG/VG or quickly dropped the nicotine.
Some folks and I would venture to say most folks that smoke do get hooked on the chemical soup created by burning. I would never argue that point.
Most of the folks here chose to switch to vaping for reasons of their own. I will never advocate trying to force folks to make the switch. I actually think this discussion is moot since I don't think removing the nicotine will accomplish what the powers that be want. It will just get smokers up in arms but then I learned a long time ago that most non-smokers consider smokers not worth listening to
As am I but I will not try to force a smoker to do as I do just because I believe it is a healthier choice. I don't hate BT. They didn't force me to smoke. I did that all on my own.
Nonalcoholic booze is a big thing up here in Wisconsin. My grandma was told to stop drinking so we'd feed her odouls nonalcoholic beer. She never knew the difference!!no nic ciggies?? I wonder how well non Alcoholic booze well sell...
or maybe non flammable gasoline
