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[Tamer El-Meehy]

Aaaand the winner is Renaissance wax. Seems Howard's give very good results in the short term (shiny specially with satin finishes) but people advise against it because it has silica, which they say is bad for wood in the long term. Besides, honeywax - they say - spots with water. People were almost unanimous on Renaissance.


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[Tamer El-Meehy]

they differ in that I've used RenWax and haven't used Howard's.

The reasons why I use and recommend Ren is because it's designed to be as subtle as possible (no "oh look, somebody waxed the peas out of this!", no fingerprints, minimal textural/tactile impact) and yet to be good in protecting (as much as wax can be).

It's designed to be applied to historic pieces (metal, leather, wood) in museums, to protect valuable items that are handled regularly by greazy-mitted brit-gawkers (with fish n' chip residue near permeating them) . . . and to have minimal impact on the visual and tactile appeal of those items.

. . .. but IDK, because I know nothing about Howard's.

Yep. And that too!


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[penguiness]

I think the question was more like:

who has used both Howard's and Ren Wax for a wood mod, and how do they differ?
(or, that'd be my question )

I will use Ren Wax on stabilized, and Howard's on non-stabilized. Howard's soaks in more, needed to keep non-stabilized from drying out but it can slightly darken.

 

[pdib]

good info. thx, Peng.

Tamer, bear in mind that the AfBlack is incredibly dense, oily wood, and I've saturated it (to whatever extent it could do) with SeaFin. I'm not really seeing how anything is going to soak in there. Over years, tho, it could lose some of it's moisture and be able to take up some "soaking in".

 

[Train2]

how are you liking your transformer, Train?

Update on Transformer.

So - it is NOT leaking, it seems.
But I'll add this:
- it's a compromise on flavor. Just not up to par with other atty's I'm using lately like NarDa and Hadalay
- still a notch up from the "throw it in with a kit" atties you might get with a budget squonker... but that's about it.
- Chuckin' some fog - the air does that, but I think between a higher air intake and a taller chamber, that's what you'll get - "just OK" flavor
- Also have to amend my comment on airflow. It does work, but It's too tight, hard to turn. And I don't think I can fix that - A ring on top of the chamber turns - but I think it might be a "sealed unit".


Overall - OK to play with. Hints at possibilities for a 22mm postless. I'll vape it a while on a disposo-squonker (it's on a "Squeeze" right now - itsy-bitsy fog machine, lol) but it will probably end up backseated. Like when I get my catfished O-atty clone to play with next.

 

[distortoblotto]

Have both Howards and Ren Wax myself. Would have to say that Howards compares to Armor All when used on wood as to where the Ren Wax compares to a fine carnauba wax on an automotive finish. The Howards requires more frequent applications and as Pen said, it does alter the appearance overtime by darkening a natural finish. On the other hand, when Ren Wax is applied and left too long, it can be a bear to buff off. Howards requires saturation time as to where the RW does not. I see where a lot of gun owners use both, however I cant help but think that using RW over the top of Howards could potentially seal in any issues. With that mouthful being said, we have a beautiful teak credenza from the sixties that has never seen anything other than Howards and it is still beautiful. I don't use it on my mods.

On another note, if you take a whiff of Ren Wax and then a whiff of Kiwi neutral shoe polish, they smell exactly the same.

 

[TamiPac]

Update on Transformer.

So - it is NOT leaking, it seems.
But I'll add this:
- it's a compromise on flavor. Just not up to par with other atty's I'm using lately like NarDa and Hadalay
- still a notch up from the "throw it in with a kit" atties you might get with a budget squonker... but that's about it.
- Chuckin' some fog - the air does that, but I think between a higher air intake and a taller chamber, that's what you'll get - "just OK" flavor
- Also have to amend my comment on airflow. It does work, but It's too tight, hard to turn. And I don't think I can fix that - A ring on top of the chamber turns - but I think it might be a "sealed unit".


Overall - OK to play with. Hints at possibilities for a 22mm postless. I'll vape it a while on a disposo-squonker (it's on a "Squeeze" right now - itsy-bitsy fog machine, lol) but it will probably end up backseated. Like when I get my catfished O-atty clone to play with next.

Much appreciated info, thank you.

 

[Tamer El-Meehy]

Thanks Peng and Disto...the African black wood is already dark as it is so I would hesitate before applying anything to it that would darken it more.


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[penguiness]

Thanks Peng and Disto...the African black wood is already dark as it is so I would hesitate before applying anything to it that would darken it more.


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Given that Peter saturated it with SeaFin, I would not use anything except Renaissance Wax on it, which is the same as I apply to my Pinch and Nutpunch.

 

[distortoblotto]

Atty's? Oh brother, have a metric crap ton. If I were to list them all, it would merely confirm the fact that I'm nuts.

Taste being absolutely subjective, we could potentially have a months long conversation on that topic.

 

[TamiPac]

Atty's? Oh brother, have a metric crap ton. If I were to list them all, it would merely confirm the fact that I'm nuts.

Taste being absolutely subjective, we could potentially have a months long conversation on that topic.

K, so, that being said..................what are you daily drivers?

 

[rudedog]

Given that Peter saturated it with SeaFin, I would not use anything except Renaissance Wax on it, which is the same as I apply to my Pinch and Nutpunch.

did you get the nutpunch made out of the wood i sent Peter??just wonder how it turned out...may not wanna see it..could make me even sadder

 

[distortoblotto]

K, so, that being said..................what are you daily drivers?

Just RDA's? Nuppin's ( of course) along with Stumpy's (mostly for TC) Goon's ( love'em on the Nutter), Narda's and Charm's. My latest edition is the Hadaly which is showing great potential as well.

Have never pigeon holed myself into one style of vaping and always switch back and forth between straight power, regulated and temperature control. Drip quite a bit as well.

 

[penguiness]

did you get the nutpunch made out of the wood i sent Peter??just wonder how it turned out...may not wanna see it..could make me even sadder

No, sir. The Nutpunch was already nearly done when I bought your block.

 

[Tamer El-Meehy]

I can't believe the guy with the funny hair is winning [emoji15]


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[penguiness]

I can't believe the guy with the funny hair is winning [emoji15]


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Americans don't think of their governing body the way the vast majority of the free world does. Maybe because it is a newer country or perhaps due to it being a melting pot of citizens originating from every single country in the entire world. Its people tend to rebel against what they perceive as dictatorship (most people see this differently).
Makes for a most interesting life, having the wonderful opportunity to interact with people of such diverse thinking within your own community. I personally enjoy it very much

 

[Tamer El-Meehy]

Americans don't think of their governing body the way the vast majority of the free world does. Maybe because it is a newer country or perhaps due to it being a melting pot of citizens originating from every single country in the entire world. Its people tend to rebel against what they perceive as dictatorship (most people see this differently).
Makes for a most interesting life, having the wonderful opportunity to interact with people of such diverse thinking within your own community. I personally enjoy it very much

I understand Peng, and I do value diversity and resent dictatorship (Americans are not unique in resenting dictatorships). And I understand the crisis the political establishment is going through in the US and elsewhere (hence Trump, Bernie, the Brexit..etc.). But this guy is supporting the craziest and most backward and corrupt dictatorships in our part of the world. Let alone what he thinks of women, immigrants, other races, beliefs...etc.


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[penguiness]

I understand Peng, and I do value diversity and resent dictatorship (Americans are not unique in resenting dictatorships). And I understand the crisis the political establishment is going through in the US and elsewhere (hence Trump, Bernie, the Brexit..etc.). But this guy is supporting the craziest and most backward and corrupt dictatorships in our part of the world. Let alone what he thinks of women, immigrants, other races, beliefs...etc.


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American's don't believe the American media or put any trust in what they say. Truth is not part of the media agenda.

 

[TamiPac]

American's don't believe the American media or put any trust in what they say. Truth is not part of the media agenda.

It is just the littlest bit amusing this morning to watch said media reporting with some bitter beer face this morning.

 

[penguiness]

Party affiliation has no bearing on the things reported by the media for nothing more than drama and sensationalism. When was the last time that the news spent 25% of it's time reporting on items of a positive nature? I avoid the news as much as I possibly can, for my own sanity.