I don't get it...I really don't.
I'm in the USA but 808's are getting scarce here as well,
I have a 510...it sits in a drawer.
I have a Riva 901 and I'm tired of having to adjust the contacts on the battery EVERYTIME I go to charge it.
I have a few 808's and now that is the ONLY thing I will use,
The cartos are great...the hit is wonderful,,,the batteries last...the flavor is the best,
510's are out there because of promotions by the mfg's and a desire to have something 'universal'.
In my opinion, they picked the wrong 'standard'.
Like when VHS overtook BETA, the best product is becoming extinct.
I smoked for 45 years. I went to a PV to break the analog habit, for my health, and to save money, I was looking for something that would comfortably take the place of my smoking habit which also included the social aspects of smoking with others who share that habit,
If someone had come up to me while I was smoking and said, "Here try this 3 oz square wood toned box that produces enough smoke/vapor to fill a small room in a single puff and tastes like chocolate/grape/bubblegum and burns your throat", I would still be smoking today,
That isn't what I came to PV's for and the 808 is EXACTLY the analog experience I was hoping to find a substitute for,
Today's juice fed mods with day long battery life at double voltages have opened up the world of chain vaping all 18 hours a day I am awake at twice the nicotine I was doing analog and it's all cheap enough so I don't even have to think twice about it,
I'm not so sure that is a good thing.
I might as well mainline my juice and not have to worry about atty's or cleaning. Something that crosses my mind each time I fill a syringe with juice in order to refill one of my new cartos.
When I looked over all of the juices and carto's and mods and attys, etc, I accumulated in my quest to have it all and have it now and discover the best which every mfg claimed to have, and then saw how much I was vaping compared to how much I used to smoke or even compared to how much I was breathing without taking a vape I had to step back and re-evaluate,
The KR808 is everything I wanted an analog substitute to be and keeps me satisfied without looking like I am dealing in drugs or like I have an 1800's steam engine running around in my office,
Why vendors are dropping them I do not know, Why users keep spending tons of cash only to find themselves disappointed trying to mimic the actions and pleasures the get so easily from the KR808 I don't know,
I only know that (IMHO) each time a noob asks, "what should I get"? and we tell them to jump right in with an Ego or Silver Bullet, or Riva, I believe we are doing them a disservice.