100 mAh = 1 hour vape time?

[Rocketpunk]

I'm trying to get my facts straight.

I believe I was told a long while back that 100 mAh equals (in e-cigs) 1 hour of constant vape time. So a 1000 mAh battery is equivalent to sitting there and vaping nonstop for 10 hours before the battery will die.

I completely understand these are averages and there are external variables involved, but is this statement inaccurate or incorrect? When someone asks me, "How long will this last me?" and I say, "Ten hours of sitting there puffing on it non-stop" (picking it up and setting it down as you go throughout the day extends the life), is this accurate?

Thoughts?

(This is assuming someone keeps their VV device at 4.0 volts the whole time.)

 

[Talyon]

Your statement is correct, I've read many threads suggesting that 1000mah is = to 10 hours and 800 is 8 hours and 2200 is 22 hours etc.

 

[wandawag]

you would be correct i believe. my 1000mah lasts 10 hours, my 1300mah lasts 13 hours. i am vaping less now, so i am changing my batteries much less frequently.

 

[Rocketpunk]

The reason I ask is because I work at a B&M and people constantly ask me, "How long will this last me?" I tell people looking into 1000 mAh Twists that it will last "a whole day on a full charge", and people looking into 650 mAh Twists, "A half day at full charge". I just don't want to be inaccurate. Everyone vapes differently. Some people take honking huge rips, others little puffs.

So many variables are involved.

Dual coil, single coil? Voltage/wattage? Ohm resistance?

 

[Talyon]

The reason I ask is because I work at a B&M and people constantly ask me, "How long will this last me?" I tell people looking into 1000 mAh Twists that it will last "a whole day on a full charge", and people looking into 650 mAh Twists, "A half day at full charge". I just don't want to be inaccurate. Everyone vapes differently. Some people take honking huge rips, others little puffs.

So many variables are involved.

Dual coil, single coil? Voltage/wattage? Ohm resistance?

Forgot about your dream job u for awhile back, yes many variables affect battery life but u have the basic understanding down pat, also the older a battery gets the less it performs and doesn't last as long. Brands matter as well.

 

[Baditude]

What you are telling them is the best answer available, Rocket. It doesn't hurt to add the variables part with it.

The same is true about how long will a juice delivery attachment last? The variables concerning these devices gets even more complex. What juice viscosity will they be using? Dark or clear eliquid? What resistance? Single or dual coils? Fixed or regulated voltage device, and at what voltage? Just one cartomizer or using multiple carts simultaneously and switching from one to another?

I personally no longer give a unit of time, but a more accurate measurement might be volume used. Saying a cartomizer will last 1 - 4 weeks is a pretty wide time period. But perhaps a more accurate measurement would be 25 - 30 ml of juice per cartomizer.

I'm always reminded of the cigalike mall kiosks and their overstated claims on battery life and cartridge life compared to a pack of cigarettes. The same holds true for the disposable cigalikes at the convenience store or gas station.

 

[Rocketpunk]

Dream job, for sure. But the honeymoon phase is over. There have been a very few fleeting moments where I wanted to just throw up my hands and tell a person, "Vaping isn't for everyone."

What usually snaps people back into reality from just being lazy: "Do you own a smartphone? You do! Well, if you could figure out your smartphone, you can use an electronic cigarette."

I encounter a LOT of older folks who act like plugging in a USB cord, swapping wicks, or even pushing a button literally explodes their minds. "What the hell's a USB?" You'd think that's a joke, but it's not. I'm incredibly patient, but I can tell when someone shows up with a dead-set attitude that "I don't get this" and "technology is hard, I'm not a computer person". I give them the same exact schpiel (sp?) I give everyone else, and I always walk them through turning on an eGo battery and filling an iClear 16. Some people froth at the mouth to master these things, the others consider it a burden to figure out how to use these things. If mastering the five-click on-off feature of an eGo battery, and an iClear blows your mind out of the water... maybe... maybe... this isn't for you...

EDIT: Sorry for the rant. I apologize.

 

[DPLongo22]

Your statement is correct, I've read many threads suggesting that 1000mah is = to 10 hours and 800 is 8 hours and 2200 is 22 hours etc.

Nowhere even close for.me.

 

[Rickajho]

RP it's just a rule of thumb based on years of experience in the vaping world. You could drive yourself insane factoring the "what if's" of LR HR SLR DC 'just how long a vape are we talking about here?' etc.

It doesn't mean 100 mAh of battery capacity is equivalent to one solid hour of non stop hold that button down and fog the dance floor vaping. (Try that with a mini cigalike battery and see how long that lasts...) It means every 100 mAh of battery capacity is equivalent to one hour's practical use while vaping, average.

[edit:] Also, we are talking about straight, single cell, non VV, no nonsense stuff here. Even when you start toying with the voltage of a Twist or a Spinner, making a single 3.7 V cell put out 4.2 volts for example, that's gonna skew the rule. A single 2200 mAh battery in a LavaTube does not last 22 hours for the same reason. It gets even more skewed with VW devices. On the other hand, if I put two 900 mAh batteries in my VV box mod... good for 12 hours or more. not 9 hours. That again breaks "the rule" due to the nature of 2 battery box having 7.4 volts available, but only putting out (back to the example) 4.2 volts.

Basic non VV stuff? See "the rule". After that slide the rule up or down depending on the nature of the device. If you are selling bacis eGo's and Twists don't over think it

 

[degnr8]

I've come across this rule of thumb as well and I ain't buyin' it. the one hour per 100 mah may hold for average usage but definitely not for continuous vaping in my experience. I vape heavily and even keeping it at 4.0 an 1100 mah ego twist only lasts me 6-7 hours. I use 3-4 650 mah batts on my mech in a day.

 

[minimalsaint]

LIES!
Maybe before VV and VW came along, but I feel like there are too many variables to accurately stand behind a statement like that.
Bat put it into good terms above. It will vary greatly depending on the user and just about every variable you can think of. I can't imagine the crabby customers you would get if you answered using the 100=1 rule after they go home, crank up the voltage and vape silly for a couple of hours and their battery dies. I would think something was wrong and return to the store for sure!
Sticky situation, that question.

 

[Abbell]

back to the KISS method. Keep It Simple Stupid.

Those who are not technology friendly need things they can work with. A simple cig stick with a recharge pack has helped some I know of. They plug it in once and swap out as needed. Then those puny 200-250Mah batts are a worthwhile choice. Just plug the pack in when you go to bed. In time, simple habits can be modified into more efficient designs.

I kill my 2600 Mah in about a day and a half of use so I recharge when I go to sleep.

 

[Abbell]

Actually one of the things that almost stopped me dead in my tracks when I first started trying e-cigs was the idiotic claim that one disposable equaled 2 packs. If the juice lasted the battery sure did not. That was my moment of truth... do I invest in better or keep smoking.

 

[Gsr1379]

Nowhere even close for.me.

That is what i was thinking. when all I used was Ego twist (set mostly at ~4volts) and protanks I usually killed two 1000mah batts in a day. They were less then 2 months old.

 

[Rocketpunk]

I'm always reminded of the cigalike mall kiosks and their overstated claims on battery life and cartridge life compared to a pack of cigarettes. The same holds true for the disposable cigalikes at the convenience store or gas station.

These infuriate me. Almost everyone asks, "How much does this 10 mL bottle equal to a pack of cigarettes?" I tell them I'm opposed to manufacturers or distributors who claim, "One cartridge equals 600 puffs!" or "One bottle equals a carton of cigarettes!" Every smoker is different. There is no quantified ratio. I know some smokers who can inhale a cig in 3 minutes, I know other smokers who hit their cigarettes five or six times and just let it ash. I ALWAYS tell people I do not agree with that statement and follow it up with what I just said/typed.

"How long will a ten mL bottle last?"

There is no ratio. I always tell them, "The average is a few days to a week." I get so scared about what I tell people, because that's the number they have in their head when they jump into this. I do my absolute best to preface everything with, "This is an average, it's different for every single person."

 

[Baditude]

If mastering the five-click on-off feature of an eGo battery, and an iClear blows your mind out of the water... maybe... maybe... this isn't for you...

EDIT: Sorry for the rant. I apologize.

I love it!

I think it's important at some point to bring people to reality. Vaping e-cigs can help you make the switch from one deadly habit to a less known but probably safer habit. It's still nicotine, which we all crave. We're addicts. Vaping is similar to smoking, but it is completely different in the following ways.

Smoking is easy. Light up and go. If you are out of cigarettes, the store 5 minutes away has them and may be open 24 hours a day.

Vaping is hard. It takes discipline, determination, and planning ahead. A little bit of knowledge and experience helps, too. You need at least two of everything in the setup, because electronics and mechanical devices fail. People have a hard time understanding why you need more than one battery and one delivery device. What if that battery dies? Or that one clearomizer bites the dust?

Unless you are lucky enough to have a vape shop in your town, you have to purchase supplies online. That can mean 4 - 7 days waiting for stuff to arrive. This takes planning ahead (and patience).

Keep at least a week's worth of juice on hand at all times, because it can take a week to order and receive it by mail. What if you completely spill a whole bottle by accident? Then what? Backups.

Keep on a plan and stick to it. Don't let spent batteries just lay around, get them back into the charger before you forget about it. No charged batteries - no vaping. No working "toppers" - no vaping. No juice - no vaping. It's not THAT hard to understand.

If they are serious about quiting smokes, these rules must be followed. Don't give yourself ANY reason to have to buy a pack of cigarettes after all the hard work you've done to quit. Nicotine cravings can be incredibly powerful.

 

[Rocketpunk]

Keep in mind, everyone, that I understand the variables.

 

[Rocketpunk]

Baditude, I'm proud to consider you a friend.

 

[Rickajho]

I've come across this rule of thumb as well and I ain't buyin' it. the one hour per 100 mah may hold for average usage but definitely not for continuous vaping in my experience. I vape heavily and even keeping it at 4.0 an 1100 mah ego twist only lasts me 6-7 hours. I use 3-4 650 mah batts on my mech in a day.

See [edit] in my previous post.

 

[Rickajho]

These infuriate me. Almost everyone asks, "How much does this 10 mL bottle equal to a pack of cigarettes?""

Tell them 100 10 ml bottles can dance of the head of a pin and that's all they really need to know.