12 days left before the ban of sales in CA!

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Has everybody done this?

Tell me if you think it's time to just throw in the towel and accept this.

SB 400 will ban the sales of all electronic cigarette devices in California.

Quoted from Kamanjah's post.....
"The bill has been now been sent to the Governor. If the Governor doesn't veto this bill by Oct 11, sales prohibition will become law in California.

Please contact Governor Schwarzenegger! <<link!!!

It's easy. All they ask for is your name and email address. Please, let's flood his office with VETO SB 400! Use twitter if you can, simply type @schwarzenegger Please Veto SB 400!"

Has everyone done this or have we given up? It is important to do even if you don't live in California because other states will follow.

Can we e-mail him more than once or would that just be an annoyance. I know this post is redundant but i wanted to post it again for any newbies or people that missed the first, second or third time.

Just do it!!!!!

Also, i'm willing to do some footwork if anyone needs help. I live in Orange County CA.
 
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I'm just not sure what can be done at this point. Not giving up i'm just not politically savvy. The clock is really ticking and i'm not sure what can be done other than send twitter messages or messages via the gov. website mentioned in the post.

So this is what it feels like to have your hands tied.

:nah:

+1 !
I don't think we can do anything at this point...
 

Þornbjörg

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Here's a good way to contact him about this issue.

Select this link:
Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger - Interact

Type in your real first name, last name, and email address.

Select 'Governer' from the Subject drop down list.

Hit submit to bring up the email form.

Paste this canned message, replacing --Your Name Here-- with your name.

Code:
Please veto Senate Bill 400. 

Senate Bill 400 is designed to ban electronic cigarettes which are, according to all preliminary studies performed by the Food and Drug Administration, a safer alternate to tobacco cigarettes. Placing a ban on them now will force many users to go back to regular cigarettes at the expense of their health, their loved ones health, and the health of those around them. Rather than banning them at the request of Big Tobacco, we should embrace them, regulate them, and help forward their acceptance for their positive health benefits.

Signed,
--Your Name Here--

Then submit.

You should be taken to an email success page.

EVERYONE please use do this, and have everyone you know please do this.

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Anyone in California, please call 916-445-2841 (the Governors office) and request him to veto the bill. Don't be afraid to call, he's an elected official and it is his duty to serve the people. From personal experience with calling elected officials, you'll likely be handled by an army of staff, but be kind, and make sure you get your opinion known.. if you can, talk to the Governor himself.

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I'm looking up the number now to contact the HRC Action Center guys to see if this is something they'd consider setting up as something to get more support from them.
 
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Þornbjörg

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Yes, it will be affected.

They are trying to place Nicotine-Bearing Liquid into the realm of prescription-only. This would mean that only FDA approved eliquid would be allowed to be sold or purchased in the state, and anyone caught with it would be subject to enforcement for handling a prescription product without a prescription.

Regarding non-nicotine liquid, if passed, then expect any run ins with good old Johnny Law to figure they can not be sure if it has or does not have nicotine content, which in turn can lead to arrest and detainment until such time as they prove you were not handling a prescription product.
 

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Þornbjörg;612937 said:
Yes, it will be affected.

They are trying to place Nicotine-Bearing Liquid into the realm of prescription-only. This would mean that only FDA approved eLiquid would be allowed to be sold or purchased in the state, and anyone caught with it would be subject to enforcement for handling a prescription product without a prescription.

Regarding non-nicotine liquid, if passed, then expect any run ins with good old Johnny Law to figure they can not be sure if it has or does not have nicotine content, which in turn can lead to arrest and detainment until such time as they prove you were not handling a prescription product.

Then expect other States to follow as well. CA sets the example and then others follow and then nicotine juice will be illegal in the U.S.
 

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Þornbjörg;612937 said:
Yes, it will be affected.

They are trying to place Nicotine-Bearing Liquid into the realm of prescription-only. This would mean that only FDA approved eLiquid would be allowed to be sold or purchased in the state, and anyone caught with it would be subject to enforcement for handling a prescription product without a prescription.

There's quite a grey area there. Suppose the FDA banned a certain OTC cold medicine and made it available by prescription only. Would you be arrested if you still had possession of it if it was the version bought legally OTC before the ban?

If you can prove that you bought your e-liquid legally before the ban then I don't see how it would be illegal. Are you suggesting that they realistically would order an edict that all e-liquid that was legally purchased must be turned in to the police or destroyed by the individuals who purchased it?

Þornbjörg;612937 said:
Regarding non-nicotine liquid, if passed, then expect any run ins with good old Johnny Law to figure they can not be sure if it has or does not have nicotine content, which in turn can lead to arrest and detainment until such time as they prove you were not handling a prescription product.

Again this a quite a grey area. Are you suggesting that you could be legally arrested and detained for the possession of flavored Vegetable Glycerin for personal use?
 

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Þornbjörg;612937 said:
Yes, it will be affected.

They are trying to place Nicotine-Bearing Liquid into the realm of prescription-only. This would mean that only FDA approved eLiquid would be allowed to be sold or purchased in the state, and anyone caught with it would be subject to enforcement for handling a prescription product without a prescription.

What? Where are you getting this from? It's not part of SB400 as I read it. Is there another bill in the works?
 
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