At this point I am just asking for the product I paid for in less than a month, and clear, transparent communication. I don't think my request is that unreasonable.
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Need help from former MFS (MyFreedomSmokes) customers
Has any found a supplier or company that has tobacco e-juice like or very similar to MFS Turbosmog, Tall Paul, or Red Luck?
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At this point I am just asking for the product I paid for in less than a month, and clear, transparent communication. I don't think my request is that unreasonable.
I'll be the first to admit that I know next to nothing about DIY juice mixing, but at these prices it sounds like they may be selling at a loss.
figure buying the 120ml four for the price of three deal equals 480ml of juice for $27, which equals about 5.6 cents per ml .....
for those with some experience .... can you make juice for enough less than 5.6 cents per ml (minus a mixologist's wage) and make a profit????
figure buying the 120ml four for the price of three deal equals 480ml of juice for $27, which equals about 5.6 cents per ml .....
for those with some experience .... can you make juice for enough less than 5.6 cents per ml (minus a mixologist's wage) and make a profit????
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I would venture a bet that you can. I can achieve that at home with retail pg/vg prices using the less expensive flavors. Now naturally 24mg costs more than 6mg, but the numbers are close. Now buy PG/VG/Nic/flavors in bulk wholesale sizes, and theres a profit. The cheapest component to any bottled juice you buy in a shop is the juice itself. Often times the bottles cost more than the liquid inside of them.
macaroni,
"a mycologist" God I hope not. That would be all I need is e-juice with integrated "Fungi".
"a mycologist" God I hope not. That would be all I need is e-juice with integrated "Fungi".
But .... at home you can reuse bottles .... and you don't have to pay an employee ... or support your web site. I assume this is a "kitchen table" company ... but if it isn't than there is also other overhead expenses like rent, equipment, lights, heat etc.
I guess you could drive down your home brewed DIY juice that low ........ but I'm still doubtful about running a profitable business at prices this low.
macaroni,
"a mycologist" God I hope not. That would be all I need is e-juice with integrated "Fungi".
@#**$ auto correct ..... but I guess it would be par for the course with Lucky 7 .... late juice laced with fungus .... lol
macaroni,
"a mycologist" God I hope not. That would be all I need is e-juice with integrated "Fungi".
What ..... you've never heard of mushroom flavored juice ...... it's all the rage here on the coast
I am laughing really hard... I have had "auto correct" send out some messages in a business atmosphere that were totally embarrassing. I no longer use auto correct when I can figure out how to turn it off.
At least your auto correct has a sense of humor and yes I had to look the word up in my dictionary.
You may be 100% right. I haven't sat down and ran the numbers, but the bottom line is I don't care. I didn't negotiate that price, they offered it. If they can't turn a profit, it's not my problem. But regardless I expect my product to arrive eventually. If I am quoted in 5-7 days, then I expect 5-7 days. If my order confirmation page said 30-35 days I wouldn't be complaining. But the bottom line is they took the order, and they agreed to that time frame. In return I agreed to send them money. I held up my end....
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macaroni,
"a mycologist" God I hope not. That would be all I need is e-juice with integrated "Fungi".
Don't laugh!! I had a friend tell me that she had MOLD growing in one of her juice bottles once, and won't buy from any Mom & Pop vendors any more... although she trusts my DIY stuff...
I would actually like to see the Health Dept. step in to inspect these so-called juice vendors and give them a rating like they do the Restaurants!! I highly suspect that a lot of them are made under not so sanitary conditions...
and probably in places not zoned for business, either.I trust the vendors at the ECF more than I would the ones on Facebook, but they can't make them all go to Business School... Ha!!
To keep on going with the orders like they did, it would either have to be out of sheer stupidity, or just plain Greed... with no concern for the Customers either way!!!
And then he asks that people not report him to the Admin. and/or get him banned?? Maybe he should have read the ToS before he got started here??!!
I'm not making excuses or anything .... it's just my mind tends to wander as I sit under my mailbox waiting for vape mail, and I'm kind of intrigued by the "business end" of vaping with all of the new companies popping up.
Looks to me like you are just shilling for the company, replying to every post with mealy-mouthed feel good nonsense.
Sooner, is that you?
Every good online scam has a shill or two and I think we've found one.
Don't laugh!! I had a friend tell me that she had MOLD growing in one of her juice bottles once, and won't buy from any Mom & Pop vendors any more... although she trusts my DIY stuff...
I would actually like to see the Health Dept. step in to inspect these so-called juice vendors and give them a rating like they do the Restaurants!! I highly suspect that a lot of them are made under not so sanitary conditions... View attachment 307951 and probably in places not zoned for business, either.
I trust the vendors at the ECF more than I would the ones on Facebook, but they can't make them all go to Business School... Ha!!
To keep on going with the orders like they did, it would either have to be out of sheer stupidity, or just plain Greed... with no concern for the Customers either way!!!
And then he asks that people not report him to the Admin. and/or get him banned?? Maybe he should have read the ToS before he got started here??!!
SpaceKitty,
I can almost handle the mold in your friends juice bottle but the guy eating out of the cat litter is over the top.
I try so hard to not think about some of the less than desirable conditions that some of the e-juice is assembled in and almost had totally put it out of my mind... But then along comes the "SpaceKitty" and brings it all back into the foreground. I don't know which is worse you reminding me of the sanitary considerations or the fact that I blindly suck it deep down into my lungs.
Actually I did the same thing when I lived in Kentucky (still a cig smoker at the time) and saw how tobacco bails were handled. Let me tell you cleanliness was definitely not one of their top concerns. Out of considerations for my own mental wellbeing I won't go into details of what I saw in the handling of tons of tobacco but it wasn't pretty.
Want your juice in less than a week? Order somewhere else. Whether their business practices are inexcusable or shady, it matters little at this point.
$0.07 a ml
Ask for a refund and don't order again if you're unhappy.
$0.07 a ml
Ask for a refund and don't order again if you're unhappy.
SpaceKitty,
I can almost handle the mold in your friends juice bottle but the guy eating out of the cat litter is over the top.
I try so hard to not think about some of the less than desirable conditions that some of the e-juice is assembled in and almost had totally put it out of my mind... But then along comes the "SpaceKitty" and brings it all back into the foreground. I don't know which is worse you reminding me of the sanitary considerations or the fact that I blindly suck it deep down into my lungs.
Actually I did the same thing when I lived in Kentucky (still a cig smoker at the time) and saw how tobacco bails were handled. Let me tell you cleanliness was definitely not one of their top concerns. Out of considerations for my own mental wellbeing I won't go into details of what I saw in the handling of tons of tobacco but it wasn't pretty.
Actually, for me it conjures up visions of Prohibition and people making Bathtub Gin...
And you don't want to know what my Father saw them doing with the meat when he worked at Farmer John's...
I think you're missing the point... the people who ordered early on had every right to expect their order in the time frame promised!!
The people who ordered after they knew there was a problem took their chances...
Less than a week and over a month are two very different worlds.
Yes it matters little at this point because the "vendor" has already pocketed the money.
Still dont get how you guys cant figure out that price has nothing to do with fulfilling a business obligation. I'm supposed to expect ....ty service because the juice was on sale? Didnt think I was supposed to expect ....ty service from any of the approved vendors here.
Actually, for me it conjures up visions of Prohibition and people making Bathtub Gin...
And you don't want to know what my Father saw them doing with the meat when he worked at Farmer John's...
SpaceKitty,
You absolutely amaze me. My Grandmother told me stories of how she mad "real bathtub" Gin in a real bathtub and my Great Grandfather was a butcher during the depression.
There was a time when I wouldn't eat meat because of some of the stories and to this day I won't drink Moonshine (tub gin) period.
I think you're missing the point... the people who ordered early on had every right to expect their order in the time frame promised!!
The people who ordered after they knew there was a problem took their chances...
I understand what you're saying, and maybe my point wasn't explicit. First off, I agree. I think it's disgusting that the owner is posting numbers of what's been shipped when clearly other orders have been skipped/ignored. But secondly:
The juice is ridiculously inexpensive
People should be wary of anyone selling juice at cost
Whether someone purchases on day one or month two, something has to suffer when the price is that low. People buy from Fasttech because it's inexpensive. Their site says 7 days (around that depending location), but I've received it in 7 days times 4 weeks...and that's what I expect. Despite everything that's been said on all sides (and I hate clichés) but you get what you pay for. If their quality is great, then something else will suffer at that price.
01-26-2014, 10:21 AM #78
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