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120ml $8.99 12ml $1.99 Buy 3 Get 1 Free All Sizes Free Shipping Over $30! Lucky 7 Vapes

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HolmanGT

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WTH you can .... with shipments by just having the tracking number??

Well I didn't pursue it to far but after entering the tracking number it comes up with a button to change the shipping and offers things like:

UPS InfoNotice®
Track with your UPS InfoNotice Number (found above the barcode) and choose from up to four delivery change options:
Delivery to another address
Delivery on a different day
Hold for pickup at a UPS Operating Facility
Return to Sender


I exited the system at this point but it looks like you could play He77 with someone's order.
I don't think they expect anyone but the sender and recipient to have the tracking number. As I said I didn't go any further, there may be something down the line to stop me but if it was my tracking number posted here in this thread I would be very nervous about what someone could/may do.
 
And then he asks that people not report him to the Admin. and/or get him banned?? Maybe he should have read the ToS before he got started here??!!

Spacedoutkitty will you be so kind as to reference the post where they asked people not report this to ECF Administration? I don't seem to be able to locate such a request. I perhaps overlooked the post in my haste.

Thank You,

Tom
 

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Wonder what the latest order # is that got marked as shipped and received tracking

humpstyles,

I sent an email to Chris@lucky7 asking about the status of my order #588 and was told that it would probably ship sometime this weekend and I would then receive an email with tracking.

Not exactly what you asked but closer than I have gotten in the last three weeks. :blink:
 

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Well I didn't pursue it to far but after entering the tracking number it comes up with a button to change the shipping and offers things like:

UPS InfoNotice®
Track with your UPS InfoNotice Number (found above the barcode) and choose from up to four delivery change options:
Delivery to another address
Delivery on a different day
Hold for pickup at a UPS Operating Facility
Return to Sender


I exited the system at this point but it looks like you could play He77 with someone's order.
I don't think they expect anyone but the sender and recipient to have the tracking number. As I said I didn't go any further, there may be something down the line to stop me but if it was my tracking number posted here in this thread I would be very nervous about what someone could/may do.
There are many of things that prevent you from doing any of that down the line. Most of those options require you to invest $40 for those services. You need his name and address, and a fistful of other things. It gets you as far as knowing a USPS tracking code, only the UPS tracking page looks better because its filled with options.
 
post #703.

Thank Ya ...... I missed it........ 703 / 'Rancor' ---->704 .

Oh my! It's simply horrible they way 'Soonerfan1' fell at the feet of the crowd and begged for mercy. So a simple, "There is no need to report us, or try and ban us guys." brought out the knives and swords? As if no one was aware of the already severe nature of the situation?

The bantering back and forth - flip-flopping good-cop-bad-cop and the ring-leaders who had not even order were leading the pack with the sole intent of beating the heck out of 'Soonerfan1'? And THEY complained about violations of the Terms of Service? Now I see how it works.

"There is no need to report us, or try and ban us guys." ------- that's "begging", huh? To me it simply shows concern that the already admitted bad decisions (plural) might draw the scrutiny of our hosts. A valid concern I would imagine - but it certainly did not justify the abuse handed out by two 'members' who appeared to only want to make matters worse.

Yep. Now I see how it works - and who to avoid. As with every bad situation some simply need to see it worsen; as already noted, "...and they complain about violations of the Terms of Service?" Right.


Tom
 
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macaroni

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Looks to me like you are just shilling for the company, replying to every post with mealy-mouthed feel good nonsense.
Sooner, is that you?
Every good online scam has a shill or two and I think we've found one.

Nah .... not shilling for the company .... I'm just a grown up, with grown up attitudes. I find it difficult to get overly upset over a couple of bucks worth of juice being delivered later than I expected.

I would be a more than little embarrassed to let the world know that I'm so egocentric that I expect the world to stop just to satisfy me.

I fully understand that by posting a rant on a thread full of already frustrated customers helps nothing.

I tend to reduce my world into the simplest terms ... in this case either wait for your juice, or get a refund .... simple, and no wasted energy whining about things beyond my control.

I find that whipping the peasants into a frenzy, picking up our pitchforks and torches to storm the castle works GREAT in a 1950s monster movie .... but always strikes me as kind of silly on the internet.

There benderbot, now you know what my post posts are all about ... how about you.
 

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Nah .... not shilling for the company .... I'm just a grown up, with grown up attitudes. I find it difficult to get overly upset over a couple of bucks worth of juice being delivered later than I expected.

I would be a more than little embarrassed to let the world know that I'm so egocentric that I expect the world to stop just to satisfy me.

I fully understand that by posting a rant on a thread full of already frustrated customers helps nothing.

I tend to reduce my world into the simplest terms ... in this case either wait for your juice, or get a refund .... simple, and no wasted energy whining about things beyond my control.

I find that whipping the peasants into a frenzy, picking up our pitchforks and torches to storm the castle works GREAT in a 1950s monster movie .... but always strikes me as kind of silly on the internet.

There benderbot, now you know what my post posts are all about ... how about you.

Thank you for saying what needed to be said macaroni.

Like vultures on road kill, I joined the rush to buy from Lucky 7 with his cheap prices. I also subscribed to this thread early on and enjoyed the info. But now at 81 pages and growing, much has become internet bold drivel which I no longer enjoy.

I'm outta here.......and will patiently wait for my juice to arrive.
 

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Thank you for saying what needed to be said macaroni.

Like vultures on road kill, I joined the rush to buy from Lucky 7 with his cheap prices. I also subscribed to this thread early on and enjoyed the info. But now at 81 pages and growing, much has become internet bold drivel which I no longer enjoy.

I'm outta here.......and will patiently wait for my juice to arrive.

Wish you wouldn't leave .... IMHO this thread can serve a useful purpose. For example the things I think I know just deduced from the posts contained here are;

Sonner isn't being completely honest with his fulfilled order status .... he is claiming that he's up to somewhere around #1100, with some lower numbers not filled due to lack of supplies ..... I SUSPECT he is closer to the mid 500s with some lower numbers not filled because of the lack of supplies.

Sonner claims he has hired more workers to help with the backlog .... I SUSPECT he may have asked a friend or family member to run a shipment to the post office ... but don't sense a workforce in the thousands

Sonner claims they (or he) is working hard to make up the shortfall ..... I SUSPECT that this isn't his "day job" and he's working a few hours a day just making minimal progress.

Sonner claims the "workforce" pulled an allnighter last night in a push to make headway on the backlog ... I SUSPECT this may or may not be true .... (after all I feel like he's lied to us before)


My suspicions may be true or may be way out in left field ... but they've all been arrived at by people posting their deliveries (or lack there of) in this thread. Admittedly, this is by far less accurate than if Sooner would just give us a daily status of which orders went out that day ... but it's the best status I can come up with.
 

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Tell em Macaroni..I did recieve order #547 and if Lucky 7 makes it thru this mess I will order again. I figured $30 for ton a juice was worth a shot and I was pleased with the product(even if it did take about month to get).

They will send your juice..so wait for it or ask for refund...pretty simple

I'm really not trying to "tell" anybody anything ... I just feel that if we customers band together and announce deliveries, or getting delivery statuses, and maybe even an occasional juice review here and there, this thread could be a better service to us then just being a forum to complain about a situation that we can't do anything about.

It does me more good knowing that you have received order #547,then it does me knowing that somebody is upset because they thought they'd get their order sooner than they will.
 

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We understand everyone hates us, we screwed up. We have already admitted that. We also are offering refunds to anyone wanting one. We not not here to screw anyone or "take your money" We thought 7 days was plenty until it blew up and we just couldnt keep up, and kept running out of supplies. Think about it $8.99 120ml juice, think of how many 120ml bottles of juice we sold. Tons of supplies and bottles. We were expecting to sell, but being new didnt expect THOUSANDS of bottles so quickly. We thought we would have time to grow steadily. Our fault again. Should we have shut the site down? Yes, we realize that. I feel we do offer a quality product at a very reasonable price, im hoping those of you who have received already can back us up on that. Our customer service sucks. Give us time to catch up and do things correctly. We are learning. If you don't like us, ask for a refund and never use us again, thats not what we want but if it makes you happy we will do it. Its hard to reply to HUNDREDS of emails a day asking for order confirmation, change their nicotine levels, add more bottles etc. We do reply to emails it just takes us some time. We are human and can only reply to so many in a timely manner. We are not a huge operation like the bigger companies, but once we get things worked out and grow it will take much less time. If you all feel like we need to be banned from here, report us. I hate seeing this thread turn to complete bashing. We see our flaws and have accepted responsibility, why keep bashing? It does nothing. If you want a refund just ask, that simple. Im not trying to be rude, im just trying to keep this thread from being an all out war between members. Your orders ARE coming, just not as quickly as we originaly thought. More and more orders are being delivered everyday. We apologize again, thats simply all we can do at the moment.
 
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Thank Ya ...... I missed it........ 703 / 'Rancor' ---->704 .

Oh my! It's simply horrible they way 'Soonerfan1' fell at the feet of the crowd and begged for mercy. So a simple, "There is no need to report us, or try and ban us guys." brought out the knives and swords? As if no one was aware of the already severe nature of the situation?

The bantering back and forth - flip-flopping good-cop-bad-cop and the ring-leaders who had not even order were leading the pack with the sole intent of beating the heck out of 'Soonerfan1'? And THEY complained about violations of the Terms of Service? Now I see how it works.

"There is no need to report us, or try and ban us guys." ------- that's "begging", huh? To me it simply shows concern that the already admitted bad decisions (plural) might draw the scrutiny of our hosts. A valid concern I would imagine - but it certainly did not justify the abuse handed out by two 'members' who appeared to only want to make matters worse.

Yep. Now I see how it works - and who to avoid. As with every bad situation some simply need to see it worsen; as already noted, "...and they complain about violations of the Terms of Service?" Right.


Tom

For somebody who has just joined the Forum, you obviously don't understand anything about the "Community" here.

I have watched a lot of new Vendors go through 'growing pains', and this is the WORST one I have ever seen, by the way it was handled... or not handled!!

It's really sad when the customers have to be the ones trying to sort out the mess the vendor made, with little to no help from said Vendor.

And no, I didn't order anything because he (Sooner) was having trouble with the website from the very beginning, so I thought I would sit it out to see what happened... and now I know!!

But that doesn't stop me from standing up for what's right, and blasting a Vendor who obviously doesn't give a :censored: about their Customers, or the ECF Rules!!

IMHO, he doesn't deserve to be an ECF Vendor... but hope he has learned his lesson, and wish him better Luck somewhere else.




EDIT: Looks like 'Sooner' posted something while I was writing this... his ears must have been burning... :facepalm: LOL!!
 
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macaroni

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We understand everyone hates us, we screwed up. We have already admitted that. We also are offering refunds to anyone wanting one. We not not here to screw anyone or "take your money" We thought 7 days was plenty until it blew up and we just couldnt keep up, and kept running out of supplies. Think about it $8.99 120ml juice, think of how many 120ml bottles of juice we sold. Tons of supplies and bottles. We were expecting to sell, but being new didnt expect THOUSANDS of bottles so quickly. We thought we would have time to grow steadily. Our fault again. Should we have shut the site down? Yes, we realize that. I feel we do offer a quality product at a very reasonable price, im hoping those of you who have received already can back us up on that. Our customer service sucks. Give us time to catch up and do things correctly. We are learning. If you don't like us, ask for a refund and never use us again, thats not what we want but if it makes you happy we will do it. Its hard to reply to HUNDREDS of emails a day asking for order confirmation, change their nicotine levels, add more bottles etc. We do reply to emails it just takes us some time. We are human and can only reply to so many in a timely manner. We are not a huge operation like the bigger companies, but once we get things worked out and grow it will take much less time. If you all feel like we need to be banned from here, report us. I hate seeing this thread turn to complete bashing. We see our flaws and have accepted responsibility, why keep bashing? It does nothing. If you want a refund just ask, that simple. Im not trying to be rude, im just trying to keep this thread from being an all out war between members. Your orders ARE coming, just not as quickly as we originaly thought. More and more orders are being delivered everyday. We apologize again, thats simply all we can do at the moment.


Sooner .... the noise you may be hearing in the background is me banging my head on the desk

stop apologizing .... we know you are sorry ... we know you are swamped ... we know you are making an honest effort to fill all your orders ... and some of us are willing to stick with you until the end.

BUT

FOR GOD SAKES MAN .... give us legitimate updates ... tell us what order you are up to (by the way I suspect 1,100 - 1,200 is bogus). Tell us what resourses you have run out of (so we know our order may be not getting filled in order). Tell us a legitimate goal for tomorrow.

My order number is 1908 .... I don't care if you are only up to 600 ... I don't care if you can only fill 50 per day ... I can wait, but the knowledge of where you are, and where you are going would give me a warm fuzzy feeling that SOMEDAY my order will get here.
 
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What is your order number????

#564
I am not calling for this vendor to be banned.....some of the complaining I have done is in hope it would be seen and acknowledged on here....the issue of the juice not being here yet has never been my complaint it was/is the lack of communication which seems to be improving and I will continue to update on my experience with Sooner and Lucky7......I know there is no way a company can be prepared to ship out 2-3k orders in one week and I knew I was going to have to wait a couple of weeks on my juice....it was after that two week wait when I started trying to get some answers and was not getting anywhere and then I turned to this thread in hopes of at least getting some kind of update
 
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