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NoizMaker

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So... I have been vaping for a fairly long time by Canadian Standards, I surpassed my year and a half of being smoke free and I am approaching my 2 year Vaperversary this October.

In the last 15 days my (and our) world has turned upside down.... I am legitimately concerned now and wonder how much longer I will be able to vape at all.... It's been a good time, it really has. I have made so many friends and aided in helping all whom needed it along the way... but now?... Well.. You know.

My fear isn't of the government, my fear isn't that e-cigs are secretly worse for you than analogs, my fear isn't even that my friends businesses may be raided by HC or any of that....

I'm terrified that we will have literally NO access to any nic juice at all in the coming months and we will be forced back into slavery, death, pain and suffering.... :unsure:

Although we may not always see eye to eye, I consider everyone here my family. People have all but given the shirt off of their backs to help each other here and I want to say I thank you for being there for me and with me for this wonderful ride... Let's just take this sucker around for another lap, can we?

Part of me still wants to believe this is all just some horrible nightmare I started having after the April Fools Joke. I still hope I will wake up tomorrow with my choice of juices again. I'm still in denial and obviously naive to wish such things...

Instead I find myself in the movie Groundhog Day, waking up every morning to the exact same problems and barriers in my way and I am looking for that one thing I can do that will just patch it up and make it all better.

I have never trusted the government but I never thought that they would try to invade my life and even my behavior.. But they have. Now I can't even consider saying what I want to say or even give the advice that I come here to give.

I guess the point of all of this ranting is to vent, be the mother of all my rants and to say I won't be reviewing until this matter comes to some form of resolution. As much as I have concentrated on making easy to read and thorough reviews for all you newbies out there it is simply too risky to do them anymore.

I will still be here, but I won't be as loud and proud as I have been in the past. I am honored to have helped everyone I have and I wish you all many, many years of vaping ahead.

I would rather vape on my feet than smoke on my knees, when freedom is outlawed only outlaws will be free and they will have to pry my Icon from my cold, dead hands.

NoizMaker out.
 

Chime

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I ain't that worried...sad to see the feds punishing home grown entrepreneurs though. There's a strong community here, and where there's will there's a way.

At least until the FDA monster successfully clamps it's steel jaws down on our brothers to the south.

I just really don't want to see anyone here dying from foolish attempts at extracting nicotine, I don't want to see or hear of anyone paying the ultimate price due to some bureaucrat's saber rattling.

Be safe folks.
 

AlbertaClipper

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My fear isn't of the government, my fear isn't that e-cigs are secretly worse for you than analogs, my fear isn't even that my friends businesses may be raided by HC or any of that....

I'm terrified that we will have literally NO access to any nic juice at all in the coming months and we will be forced back into slavery, death, pain and suffering....

Congrats, Noiz, for making it so far, and for helping and encouraging so many others to quit smoking. You can look at yourself in the mirror and know you've made a positive difference in others' lives...AND MAYBE EVEN SAVED A FEW! To my way of thinking, your fear is justified...but you have to remember: we humans are a very determined and crafty lot, and where there is a will, there is a way to get what we need. I know you know that, and don't want to have to be viewed as a less than law-abiding citizen...but we will get it if we want it! There are just too many available options to us, so I hope you don't worry about it anymore. It's just that it won't be as openly available...which sucks.

Although we may not always see eye to eye, I consider everyone here my family. People have all but given the shirt off of their backs to help each other here and I want to say I thank you for being there for me and with me for this wonderful ride... Let's just take this sucker around for another lap, can we?
Are you kidding?? We're just getting warmed up!! :)

I have never trusted the government but I never thought that they would try to invade my life and even my behavior.. But they have. Now I can't even consider saying what I want to say or even give the advice that I come here to give.
You still have freedom of expression and of speech, Noiz...don't let those asshats take that away from you too!

I won't be reviewing until this matter comes to some form of resolution. As much as I have concentrated on making easy to read and thorough reviews for all you newbies out there it is simply too risky to do them anymore. I will still be here, but I won't be as loud and proud as I have been in the past. I am honored to have helped everyone I have and I wish you all many, many years of vaping ahead.
If you don't have the heart for it, then it's not for us to expect it of you. However, it seemed to me like you really like sharing that info. AND IT'S NOT ILLEGAL TO POSSESS THE STUFF so where is the harm in in reviewing it? True, you may not be able to blatantly *refer* to a vendor, but I imagine that with some brainstorming we can find a way around that, too. That said, there ARE vendors who are still in business, and NOT mentioning their names could put them out of business before the thing ever gets to court. I should contact a few and see how they feel about that. We don't need to ever mention nic. Just plain juice, anyway...

I would rather vape on my feet than smoke on my knees, when freedom is outlawed only outlaws will be free and they will have to pry my Icon from my cold, dead hands.
Keep reading that over and over, brother, because we have to rattle some trees...and not hide under 'em....

Thank you so much for guiding those of us who are new to the scene...You're one of the first Canadian vapers I encountered through your YouTube vids, and found them to be very helpful. It's very disturbing to see your confidence shaken...I hate HC
 
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Pipeous

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While I may not have thanked you outright, your views have always been appreciated and your reviews have helped me in my decisions, as well as showing some of your vids to people. I feel for you, and also for the situation.

on our rc forum, we have a private room setup to openly talk about things you can't say in public. we have to use a password to enter and anyone that wants to join the ventilation zone has to get the password and agree to the terms "if you are offended by coarse language or graphic pictures do not enter". anything goes. while I am not suggesting an anything goes room, but maybe a place setup for open brainstorming and such that isn't publicly available
 

Motivaper

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I just think you, and all of us too, are feeling down about the situation in Canada. When that happens and I feel frustrated, spent, worried or anxious, it can be the healthy choice to step away from it for a bit - like you're doing. For me, that usually recharges me and strengthens my resolve - not unlike needing to recharge our e-cigs!

I would like to talk to you, outside of the forum, about some things I've been working on and plan to implement soon that I think you'd be very interested in!
 
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