15 million prize family chat
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I think what they were trying to say as an example is that you have one person who's been there for a while or really busts their .... for the company and they're being paid $65k a year. Then you have a second person who basically shows up and collects a paycheck and leaves as soon as the workday ends. Maybe they're new, or maybe they've been there a while and have had terrible performance reviews, so they're being paid $50k a year. Now they are both being paid $70k. While the good performer should be happy in getting a $5k a year raise, I can see their frustration. Why should they kill themselves working hard when the slacker did nothing and they get a larger raise?I am not sure how I feel about this. On one hand it does seem unfair to the ones with seniority but I tend to think I would be happy for those that got the raise. I think most people that are hard workers are that way instinctively and don't always look at the work/reward as a basis for their hard work. If this was true we would see nobody wanting to work in labor intensive/ lower paying jobs. Some companies have the biggest slackers in the highest position because they are family. BTW, no I am not for the "trophies for all" sentiment, but business has always been pretty lopsided when it comes to work/reward. When I was a chef, I found out a gal I had just interviewed to help me out started at $2 more an hour then I made yet I was still considered above her in position for that kitchen. I remember talking it out with my husband and at first feeling a bit slighted but he pointed out that the owner probably saw that she had three children to support and made an offer that was suited to her. He also pointed out to me that I always have the power to renegotiate my rate of pay if I felt I should. I thought about it then decided before I knew her rate I was completely satisfied with mine so why should what she gets effect how I do my work. I have always believed that ones rate of pay should be a private issue for reasons like this.
Ooooo look at me at one year in !!!!Time to celebrate!
I really haven't been following the contests much.....at least until Red started winning EVERYTHING in sight.
What's this Butterbeer?
FWIW, with this last Disrupter quick draw, I can definitely see it devolving into complaints. Knowing that innokin is going to select the winning answers instead of using random.org, I can definitely see some complaining "why did his answer get selected and not mine? " coming down the pike. And then you will also have people dissect the answers, putting their two cents as to whose answers are better.
I do not understand why someone would even care if you and him both won....it is just ridiculous. You both are 2 different people, and should not be treated as 1 because your married. I sometimes think it is greed....they spend so much time worrying about what others have or get. Its a freakin contest for goodness sake....
I really haven't been following the contests much.....at least until Red started winning EVERYTHING in sight.
What's this Butterbeer?
FWIW, with this last Disrupter quick draw, I can definitely see it devolving into complaints. Knowing that Innokin is going to select the winning answers instead of using random.org, I can definitely see some complaining "why did his answer get selected and not mine? " coming down the pike. And then you will also have people dissect the answers, putting their two cents as to whose answers are better.
Yes, that happened a little bit already with the quick draws and a lot on the 15 mill contest thread.
Oh well I guess it just falls under the catogory of "you can't please everyone"
In the case I'm referring to, it was greed. This particular person has over six thousand posts and as far as I can tell (I went back more than 20 pages of posts in his profile), he ONLY posts on contest threads. He's just here to get free stuff. I could find no post from him anywhere else on the forum, although if I had the time to go back through all of them, which I don't, he might have posted some elsewhere (at least his first five posts, LOL!) as a newbie, but since he figured out he could get something for free, that's how he expends his energy. And he gets ...... when he thinks someone won something "unfairly." It was really ugly, and it just turned me off completely.
And yeah, Rich and I ARE two different people - he likes 6 mg nic and I like 12. He likes Butterbeer and I don't (oh, please don't throw anything at me!). I like Fruit Loops and chocolate covered peaches and he doesn't. We're different PEOPLE. But when someone's on a mission, stuff like that doesn't enter into their tiny little minds. I'll get back on the contest threads later, but also because it's summer, and there's so much work to be done around here during summer, I just didn't have the time to spend entering all the different contest threads every day. I'd rather spend my time here, chatting with friends, for my relaxation time.
~Lannie
Can I change my vote?
I shot from the hip and missed the target. haha I wasn't taking into consideration prejudices/discrimination and you are correct about that. I just think this knife cuts both ways. I still think (discrimination aside) pay rates should be in the control of the owner/CEO/Corporate or whoever else makes the hiring/firing/raise choices. It's their money being doled out and many times they have several reasons for determining rates of pay that may not be as easy to understand as some would like to think. I have felt a similar unfairness (for disability discrimination) and yes I did stand up and say "I don't think so" as well so I certainly do not blame you for letting that store have it for discriminating against women. In fact.... I solute it as I do all single parents in the work force. I watched my Deaf/CI ( cochlear implanted at age 10) daughter get turned down for job after job after job because they did not want to accommodate her disability. At the same time she was denied disability because being Deaf is not considered one that limits the ability to work. She is an incredibly strong self advocate but sometimes the other side feels their position is just as strong. In some cases it is worth fighting for that equality and other times it just makes more sense to move onto to a place that is better suited in understanding fairness in the work place. So, ya, I change my vote, and I thank you for saying the words to remind me that there are many sides to issues like this.
I am struggling to come up with dinner as well for today. I am tired of the same old same old.
I think we'll just go out for dinner. I don't feel like cooking.
I understood but to me the slacker should not get a raise.....they should be fired instead and if that is not done the company may have other reasons for keeping them there that are not plain to see. I have also always thought that you should work every job to the best of your ability for your own self pride in a job well done over pay. It would have been fairer if that company also raised the others based on performance. Ok, Kattmamma already helped me to see the errors in my views so I basically am saying I was wrong for some of it. It is still a sketchy area though to me. If I have several workers that started all started at minimum wage and through time and work performance reviews the seniors make more, then minimum wage is raised, that raise does not flow throughout the whole place so there is going to be some unfairness. It is just the way things are.
I hear that!!! what do you have in the fridge/freezer? Maybe I can come up with something creative?
Lannie, That is soo not right. IMO the vendors should disqualify people like that from future contests.
I really haven't been following the contests much.....at least until Red started winning EVERYTHING in sight.
What's this Butterbeer?
FWIW, with this last Disrupter quick draw, I can definitely see it devolving into complaints. Knowing that Innokin is going to select the winning answers instead of using random.org, I can definitely see some complaining "why did his answer get selected and not mine? " coming down the pike. And then you will also have people dissect the answers, putting their two cents as to whose answers are better.
I was thinking the same. I hope it doesn't but can see it now. Sometimes people just have such strong envious genes that it sucks the fun out of things.
Thank you for the offer. I actually handed the cooking reigns over to my daughter tonight. Pluses of a multigenerational home.
Thank you for the offer. I actually handed the cooking reigns over to my daughter tonight. Pluses of a multigenerational home.
Oh that is nice!!! I do the same thing sometimes with our 19 yo son.
He is actually very skilled in cooking!
Oh, wow, this same thing happened to me once, too. I was working in an accounting-type position at a subsidiary of Cargill Grain (my job was to keep track of all the grain cars - rail cars, I mean - of each type of grain coming in and going out so we knew how much was in the elevators at any given time). Well, I did a very good job, never made mistakes, and had a good work ethic, and got a promotion to the next level up, which made me very happy. The promotion came with a raise, from $500 a month to $550 a month. Yeah, it was back in the late 70s.
The company hired a guy (a 23 year old guy) to fill my old position, and I spent a week or so training him. He was a total screw-up, constantly entering stuff in the wrong book (there were no computers back then, everything was hand-entered in paper books) and making mistakes that I had to clean up later. Finally, they told me I'd trained him enough and I could go start my new position. A couple of weeks after that, someone let slip that the new kid was making $800 to START, which was $300 more a month than I'd been making, doing twice the work with no mistakes. I was livid. When I went to my boss to find out what the heck the deal was, he said the exact same thing: "Well, he's married and has a wife to support." AND I DIDN'T? At the time, I was married to ex-husband #1, who was a total doofus, and couldn't keep a job for more than a month, and had been unemployed for the previous SIX months, and we were living on just my income. So I quit. Right then and there. Picked up my stuff and went home.The boss called me at home later that evening and asked if I'd please come back, and he'd give me another $50 a month raise (up to $600 a month). I said no, and unless he could give me $850 a month, he could find himself another lackey. And you know what? He said, "OK, sorry we couldn't come to an agreement." What an AZZ! The good news was that within just a couple of days, I'd gotten a BETTER job, paid $775 a month, BUT, I didn't have to drive all the way downtown and pay for parking, so I was netting way more than the $800 the replacement guy was making.
Another time, when I was looking for work (can't remember exactly when it was, but I think before that debacle I just described), I applied at some company and the poor guy that interviewed me said I was PERFECT for the job, but he couldn't hire me because I was white and not pregnant. Really. He actually said that. Sometimes you just have to shake your head and wonder...
~Lannie
Lmaooo...not everything....I do have my eye on some more juice, though...lmaooooo...and as for Innokin, during the round I won, I know they read the answers based on a comment in response to my answer in my "congrats" PM from them. I put some thought into it, and i believe i had given a good answer, And i saw a lot pf GOOD answers. But all the ppl complaining that the winning answers sucked and they got cheated kind of bothered me. I liked my answer, and they liked my answer. I just got lucky this time. The Lakeshore Vapors package...my name got drawn out of a hat. No skill involved whatsoever.....I really haven't been following the contests much.....at least until Red started winning EVERYTHING in sight.
What's this Butterbeer?
FWIW, with this last Disrupter quick draw, I can definitely see it devolving into complaints. Knowing that Innokin is going to select the winning answers instead of using random.org, I can definitely see some complaining "why did his answer get selected and not mine? " coming down the pike. And then you will also have people dissect the answers, putting their two cents as to whose answers are better.
Sign up for UPS My Choice, then UPS will send an email out a few days before. I got to watch the tracking from Alaska to my front door...lol
When I started in public accounting with Ernst & Young (this was back in 1990) as a first year staff accountant, I was hired on at a base salary of $27,500 in California. During new staff tax training, there were new hires from all over the country. This was my first introduction to regional differences in salary. One of the other new hires was from the office in Arkansas (or Alabama) and even with a master's degree in taxation (master's degrees started out at a higher salary), he was making $21,000 a year. Of course, the cost of living in the SF bay area is considerably higher than the cost of living in the south, so the difference is understandable.Oh, wow, this same thing happened to me once, too. I was working in an accounting-type position at a subsidiary of Cargill Grain (my job was to keep track of all the grain cars - rail cars, I mean - of each type of grain coming in and going out so we knew how much was in the elevators at any given time). Well, I did a very good job, never made mistakes, and had a good work ethic, and got a promotion to the next level up, which made me very happy. The promotion came with a raise, from $500 a month to $550 a month. Yeah, it was back in the late 70s.
The boss called me at home later that evening and asked if I'd please come back, and he'd give me another $50 a month raise (up to $600 a month). I said no, and unless he could give me $850 a month, he could find himself another lackey. And you know what? He said, "OK, sorry we couldn't come to an agreement." What an AZZ! The good news was that within just a couple of days, I'd gotten a BETTER job, paid $775 a month, BUT, I didn't have to drive all the way downtown and pay for parking, so I was netting way more than the $800 the replacement guy was making.
Another time, when I was looking for work (can't remember exactly when it was, but I think before that debacle I just described), I applied at some company and the poor guy that interviewed me said I was PERFECT for the job, but he couldn't hire me because I was white and not pregnant. Really. He actually said that. Sometimes you just have to shake your head and wonder...
~Lannie
Fast forward 10 years later and I was at my current employer. Because being located in Silicon Valley, there were a lot of people who would get their experience with the Big 4 accounting firms and then leave to go to work for some high tech firm and get salary plus stock options. The accounting firms couldn't compete, so my employer did a salary review and decided that there would be an across the board salary increase of 20 percent. This was really nice.
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