18350 battery and fuse for Caravela or Nemesis

[Danny55]

Thinking of getting a Caravela or Nemesis as my first mech mod and fitting my Kayfun on top. But everyone and their sister has a Nemesis so I kind of wanted something slightly less ubiquitous in the mech world. The Caravela offers the similar clean look to my eyes, so I'm considering buying the $17.21 all SS 18350 Caravela from FT, it has no brass coloured rings, all SS colour.

The thing is, I want protection with a mech mod. I won't be going below 1.6 to 1.5 ohms or doing anything fancy, I'm after a mech purely for the dinky size and looks. But not sure the Caravela can be protected.

I watched a video about the Caravela clone from FT (and this probably applies to the original too) and the guy said that it must be flat top batteries or the bottom won't screw in completely leaving some threading visible. I currently only have button top IMR 18350s.

I could change to IMR flat top batteries but I'm not sure if a one time vape safe fuse could also be added, or at least allow the bottom to screw in completely, anyone know?

Or if I buy flat top ICR protected batteries, I believe the PCB in the battery will add length, so not sure if that will fit?

So if I can't protect a Caravela, would a Nemesis be easier to work with and accept an 18350 flat top (or preferably my button top) + fuse without any issue screwing the bottom cap?

 

[ivenmendoza]

I have both models, full kit(18350, 18500, and 18650 tubes). I do myself use the 2 cent fuses for all my mods and I'm will mention they are capable of fitting in all set ups just not flush. For me it was a determining factor. If you do want to try it out then yes I would suggest getting the flat tops for as close to a full thread as possible. If I could make a suggestion. But the full kits(all tubes), or at least the 18500 tubes and invest in a Kick. That's been the set up that I look for. I just don't really care for VW in mechanicals. Good luck!

 

[Danny55]

I have both models, full kit(18350, 18500, and 18650 tubes). I do myself use the 2 cent fuses for all my mods and I'm will mention they are capable of fitting in all set ups just not flush. For me it was a determining factor. If you do want to try it out then yes I would suggest getting the flat tops for as close to a full thread as possible. If I could make a suggestion. But the full kits(all tubes), or at least the 18500 tubes and invest in a Kick. That's been the set up that I look for. I just don't really care for VW in mechanicals. Good luck!

Doesn't sound promising then! I need everything to be completely screwed in and flush in 18350 mode, and don't want the mod to be bigger than 18350 size.

 

[BaDaBooM]

kick it and get full protection.

 

[NerdVap0r]

Kicked nemmies i read only lasts an hour more or less in 18350 mode. Not sure if correct.

 

[Asmo6]

The nemesis trim ring. The second shiny ring below the atomizer / 510 deck. Is specifically for a fuse.

And it works with whatever batteries.

Which is why everyone and their cousin's sister's nephew in law twice removed - has one.

It will pretty much do anything you want.




I understand the idea of safety - but if you are going to run a mech purely on 1.5+ ohm builds. And you don't plan on using a kick. You should just buy a VW mod. There is absolutely no point. A VV ego will hit harder.

You are misunderstanding the point of the mechanical mod. It is devoid of all the circuitry because they are limitations. You do not get regulated voltage. You only get what the battery puts out. Paired with a medium resistance coil you will get blah performance followed by even blah-er - borderline pathetic performance. It won't be a cig-a-like. But. Again, a regulated ego will hit harder.

Life on an un-kicked mech BEGINS at 1.5 ohm. But truly 1.2 and down. And I am no cloud chaser. I have VW mods. I have a VV ego. And unless the look of a mech will satisfy you instead of a proper vape. You're chasing the wrong dragon.

 

[SpookyDriver]

Kicked nemmies i read only lasts an hour more or less in 18350 mode. Not sure if correct.

All my 18650's were on the charger today, so I used an eFest 18350 on my Nemesis (with Kick2 on 9W) and 1.5ohm Kayfun for about 4 hours this afternoon. Went through ~3ml of 50/50 juice. Showed 3.5V when I took it out.

 

[Danny55]

The nemesis trim ring. The second shiny ring below the atomizer / 510 deck. Is specifically for a fuse.

And it works with whatever batteries.

Which is why everyone and their cousin's sister's nephew in law twice removed - has one.

It will pretty much do anything you want.




I understand the idea of safety - but if you are going to run a mech purely on 1.5+ ohm builds. And you don't plan on using a kick. You should just buy a VW mod. There is absolutely no point. A VV ego will hit harder.

You are misunderstanding the point of the mechanical mod. It is devoid of all the circuitry because they are limitations. You do not get regulated voltage. You only get what the battery puts out. Paired with a medium resistance coil you will get blah performance followed by even blah-er - borderline pathetic performance. It won't be a cig-a-like. But. Again, a regulated ego will hit harder.

Life on an un-kicked mech BEGINS at 1.5 ohm. But truly 1.2 and down. And I am no cloud chaser. I have VW mods. I have a VV ego. And unless the look of a mech will satisfy you instead of a proper vape. You're chasing the wrong dragon.

Tbh, I always knew the real reason for buying a mech was for low resistance vapers, but I just wanted something much smaller than my Sigelei Zmax, plus the looks. But from what you've said, you've probably saved me money as I've been on and off the fence about mechs for a while now. Yeah, with the safety aspect in mind + a sub par vape at higher resistance, it does make it somewhat pointless for me.

 

[Baditude]

I understand the idea of safety - but if you are going to run a mech purely on 1.5+ ohm builds. And you don't plan on using a kick. You should just buy a VW mod. There is absolutely no point. A VV ego will hit harder.

You are misunderstanding the point of the mechanical mod. It is devoid of all the circuitry because they are limitations. You do not get regulated voltage. You only get what the battery puts out. Paired with a medium resistance coil you will get blah performance followed by even blah-er - borderline pathetic performance. It won't be a cig-a-like. But. Again, a regulated ego will hit harder.

Life on an un-kicked mech BEGINS at 1.5 ohm. But truly 1.2 and down. And I am no cloud chaser. I have VW mods. I have a VV ego. And unless the look of a mech will satisfy you instead of a proper vape. You're chasing the wrong dragon.

I agree with this.

Unless you just like the appearance of a mechanical mod, or plan to do sub-ohm builds, then a regulated mod is the most versatile and safest way to go.

If you are looking for something small in a regulated mod, consider the Mini ZMax or Mini Provari.

 

[Danny55]

Good suggestions, Baditude. Never really looked into mini regulated mods. But I must admit, I never liked the look of the Provari's, and too expensive, and still too long at 88mm. The mini zmax also not dinky enough and almost the same length as my Zmax V5.. This was what I had in mind with a mech mod, a 60mm nemesis and kayfun with nano kit. http://s12.postimg.org/y5qo94xyl/uhara2yd.jpg

 

[NatureBoy]

If you want to make it even smaller, you could get a Nemesis or 20x1 hybrid kit to lose the top cap completely.

As far as the Caravela goes, if the one you're referring to is the 22mm one, I have that one with brass accents. A button top 18350 just barely fits because the center pin is a tad too long. With the KFL, there was a tiny gap. Solution for that is to get a different center pin or file down the one you have, though perhaps not an easy thing to do if you don't have the means.

I've put flat top 18350 batteries in it and there's a rattle. Really annoying. How thick are those fuses? You might still have to file down the center pin a tad to fit everything flush.

 

[Asmo6]

Honestly. Just get over the 1.5ohm thing. You can start there. And carefully work your way down.

Thats what I did.

As for the investment - grab a nemesis clone. There are plenty good ones out there. Maybe $40 (US)

The kayfun isn't exactly a small atomizer either. A simple car to tank with a low resistance dual coil like the smok tech one and the nemesis gets itty bitty in 18350 mode. There are other smallish tank rba's out there too.

I'm fooling with the aga-t3 right now. (Dont buy it - its a pita). But it gets tiny in 18350 mode too.

My origin + aqua in hybrid / 18350 mode is quite small. I run .8ohm coils in it.

The trick here is to just check - check - and check your builds. I check mine over and over before I ever fire anything. (I check them on a VW mod with protection too).

You'll be fine. Get one. Mechs are awesome. Just dont be afraid of winding something a little lower eventually. Be diligent and you'll be fine.

 

[Danny55]

Honestly. Just get over the 1.5ohm thing. You can start there. And carefully work your way down.

Thats what I did.

As for the investment - grab a nemesis clone. There are plenty good ones out there. Maybe $40 (US)

The kayfun isn't exactly a small atomizer either. A simple car to tank with a low resistance dual coil like the smok tech one and the nemesis gets itty bitty in 18350 mode. There are other smallish tank rba's out there too.

I'm fooling with the aga-t3 right now. (Dont buy it - its a pita). But it gets tiny in 18350 mode too.

My origin + aqua in hybrid / 18350 mode is quite small. I run .8ohm coils in it.

The trick here is to just check - check - and check your builds. I check mine over and over before I ever fire anything. (I check them on a VW mod with protection too).

You'll be fine. Get one. Mechs are awesome. Just dont be afraid of winding something a little lower eventually. Be diligent and you'll be fine.

Flavour is the most important thing to me. So correct me if I'm wrong here but isn't sub ohm vaping more about massive clouds and the tradeoff is less flavour than with normal resistances, or does sub ohm actually give the most flavour?

 

[Ryedan]

Flavour is the most important thing to me. So correct me if I'm wrong here but isn't sub ohm vaping more about massive clouds and the tradeoff is less flavour than with normal resistances, or does sub ohm actually give the most flavour?

Cloud chasing is mostly a sub set of sub ohm vaping. Sub ohm vaping is not always cloud chasing. It all depends how you set up your gear. There is also a huge difference in power between 0.9 ohms and 0.2 ohms, but both of those are sub ohm. IMO most people who vape sub ohm are doing it for things other than cloud chasing.

I use a Kayfun on a Nemesis clone at around 0.9 ohms. I tried it at 0.7 and it was too low. IMO a Kayfun can not be set up for cloud chasing. It's a flavor chasing device and I love it for doing that with. People also like them up to about 1.5 ohms on mech mods.

In your situation I would get a mod that accepts a fuse, the fuse, your Kayfun and try it. Won't cost a lot and you will be able to experiment with it and see for yourself what it's really about.