18350/kick much sugestgions

[EverythingEvil]

I know Im probably dating myself here, but Im looking for sugetions on a mech mod that will accept a kick module in either 18500 or 18350 mode. I plan on using it for higher ohm builds with an rta, and simply don't trust rta's on mechs due to past experiences with them shorting out randomly on my regulated mods. I am aware that the nemesis comes with a kick ring and have a couple of nemesis clones, but I'm interested in what other options are avalible.

 

[r77r7r]

I forgot, can you reset a kick? some of those were done for when shorted just once. wonder if one of those 1c fuses would be better?

 

[Doffy]

an 18650 mod will fit 18500 with kick

an 18500 mech will fit 18350 with kick

from memory. But why not just buy a tube regulated mod? they are quite small now

 

[Baditude]

Does Evolv even still make the Kick?

If I remember correctly, Evolv recommended using a Kick module with no battery smaller than an 18490/18500. Evolv's website should have that information.

My only experience with a Kick was with the AltSmoke Silver Bullet, an 18650 mech by default. You could use an 18490/18500 battery along with a Kick. AltSmoke sold an accessory Kick sleeve to be able to use an 18650 and a Kick. Unfortunately, AltSmoke no longer makes the SB; but I would imagine some are sold used on the classified section here on ECF.



If you're getting a Kick for its protection circuitry, know that it did not have reverse battery protection. Putting your battery in backwards would fry the Kick's circuitry.

Perhaps a better option would be a Bug Safety Fuse by Atmizoo - MyVaporStore.

 

[gpjoe]

If I remember correctly, Evolv recommended using a Kick module with no battery smaller than an 18490/18500. Evolv's website should have that information.

My only experience with a Kick was with the AltSmoke Silver Bullet, an 18650 mech by default. You could use an 18490/18500 battery along with a Kick. AltSmoke sold an accessory Kick sleeve to be able to use an 18650 and a Kick. Unfortunately, AltSmoke no longer makes the SB; but I would imagine some are sold used on the classified section here on ECF.

This. ^^^

Pretty sure an 18490 or 18500 with a kick will work with any 18650 mech mod, as I recall. The Nemesis kick ring allows you to use an 18650 with a kick module.

 

[EverythingEvil]

an 18650 mod will fit 18500 with kick

an 18500 mech will fit 18350 with kick

from memory. But why not just buy a tube regulated mod? they are quite small now

It's more just in case mods become less avalible sometime in the near future. You just about can't mess up a mech, and kicks cost about $6 on fasttech, I can grab a handful of kicks for the price of one regulated mod and be good for years.

 

[EverythingEvil]

Does Evolv even still make the Kick?

If I remember correctly, Evolv recommended using a Kick module with no battery smaller than an 18490/18500. Evolv's website should have that information.

My only experience with a Kick was with the AltSmoke Silver Bullet, an 18650 mech by default. You could use an 18490/18500 battery along with a Kick. AltSmoke sold an accessory Kick sleeve to be able to use an 18650 and a Kick. Unfortunately, AltSmoke no longer makes the SB; but I would imagine some are sold used on the classified section here on ECF.



If you're getting a Kick for its protection circuitry, know that it did not have reverse battery protection. Putting your battery in backwards would fry the Kick's circuitry.

Perhaps a better option would be a Bug Safety Fuse by Atmizoo - MyVaporStore.

I don't know about the evolv version but fasttech has Sigelei kicks. I hadn't seen anything about using batteries smaller than 18500.

I was planning on using it not only for protection, but also because as I understand it wattage to the coil doesn't decrease as the battery drains when using a kick. I figure either way their cheap enough to order one and find out if I like it or not.

 

[Baditude]

It's more just in case mods become less avalible sometime in the near future. You just about can't mess up a mech, and kicks cost about $6 on fasttech, I can grab a handful of kicks for the price of one regulated mod and be good for years.

I'm not so sure about this strategy. The Kick modules were pretty fragile, and they had to be removed from the mod with each battery change. All that physical handling and wear/tear eventually results in a broken or dead Kick. I seriously doubt that Sigelei or SMOK Kicks are any more durable or better made.

I don't know about the evolv version but fasttech has Sigelei kicks. I hadn't seen anything about using batteries smaller than 18500.

I was planning on using it not only for protection, but also because as I understand it wattage to the coil doesn't decrease as the battery drains when using a kick. I figure either way their cheap enough to order one and find out if I like it or not.

Yes, the Kick was a wattage regulator (variable wattage) just like regulated mods use. Try one out and see if it will meet your expectations. I still think that the Bug Safety Fuse would be money well spent.

Description
Based around a resettable PTC element, the Bug is a high-amp short-circuit protection module that adds dependable safety to mechanical mods.

Designed and manufactured by Atmizone, the Bug houses a carefully-selected, high-amp, resettable polymeric fuse. These fuses do not ‘burn’ like the traditional ones – they use a polymeric element that interrupts the circuit during an over-current condition. The resistance of such an element is dependent on the current and temperature — a short-circuit quickly brings the fuse to a high-resistance state. When the fault is removed, the device cools down fast and reverts back to its low-resistance state.

The Bug is rated for operation up to 7 A at 40 degrees Celsius and has been designed to trip in about a couple hundred milliseconds when hard-shorting a low-resistance mod powered by a high quality IMR battery. The device will also trip within a few seconds when conducting currents above 8 A.

Thanks to its compact size (D=18.3mm, L=~5mm) and no polarity requirements, the Bug can be used with all telescopic mods and quite a few fixed-length mods with extra tube space.

 

[Skunk!]

18500 + Kick works in an 18650 tube. 18350+ Kick works in a 18500.
They might have them on Evolv's site.

 

[Baditude]

I hadn't seen anything about using batteries smaller than 18500.

If I remember correctly, Evolv recommended using a Kick module with no battery smaller than an 18490/18500. Evolv's website should have that information.

OK, I had some free time to refresh my memory. Turns out that I was WRONG. You can use an 18350 battery with a Kick in an 18500 mechanical mod, as long as it is an IMR battery.

"The Kick may also be used with 18500 metal tube mods with an IMR 18350 battery." -- How to Use the Kick
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I'll just remind you that the same rules apply for coil resistance and battery amp limits. Know the amp limit of the 18350 battery you will be using.

Explain it to the Dumb Noob: Ohm's Law Calculations for a Mechanical Mod

18350 Test Results

• 18350 Shootout Results – Top Three Performers
• Aspire Unrated 1100mAh Flat Top 18350...a good 9A battery
• AW 12A 800mAh Button Top 18350...only a 6A 700mAh battery
• AWT 10.5A 850mAh Flat Top 18350...a below average 6A 700mAh battery
• Efest 10.5A 700mAh 18350...an average performing 7A battery, same as Nitecore
• Imren Blue Unrated 800mAh 18350...a poor performing 3A battery
• Keeppower 10A 1200mAh 18350...above average 9A battery, only 1000mAh though
• MXJO Yellow 10.5A 700mAh Button Top 18350...a below average 5A battery
• Nitecore 7A 700mAh 18350...accurately rated, an average performer
• Ultrafire 1200mAh Button Top 18350...2A rated, 700mAh, DO NOT BUY
• Vapcell Purple 10A 1100mAh 18350...they changed what cell they wrap, unknown ratings

 

[EverythingEvil]

OK, I had some free time to refresh my memory. Turns out that I was WRONG. You can use an 18350 battery with a Kick in an 18500 mechanical mod, as long as it is an IMR battery.

"The Kick may also be used with 18500 metal tube mods with an IMR 18350 battery." -- How to Use the Kick
_________

I'll just remind you that the same rules apply for coil resistance and battery amp limits. Know the amp limit of the 18350 battery you will be using.

Explain it to the Dumb Noob: Ohm's Law Calculations for a Mechanical Mod

18350 Test Results

• 18350 Shootout Results – Top Three Performers
• Aspire Unrated 1100mAh Flat Top 18350...a good 9A battery
• AW 12A 800mAh Button Top 18350...only a 6A 700mAh battery
• AWT 10.5A 850mAh Flat Top 18350...a below average 6A 700mAh battery
• Efest 10.5A 700mAh 18350...an average performing 7A battery, same as Nitecore
• Imren Blue Unrated 800mAh 18350...a poor performing 3A battery
• Keeppower 10A 1200mAh 18350...above average 9A battery, only 1000mAh though
• MXJO Yellow 10.5A 700mAh Button Top 18350...a below average 5A battery
• Nitecore 7A 700mAh 18350...accurately rated, an average performer
• Ultrafire 1200mAh Button Top 18350...2A rated, 700mAh, DO NOT BUY
• Vapcell Purple 10A 1100mAh 18350...they changed what cell they wrap, unknown ratings

Thanks for all the info, it's been quite a few years since I've used any 18350 batteries. I see there are a few in your list that seem to be a bit better or equal to the efast batteries I used in my nemesis years ago.

 

[t8kiteasy]

I still use my evolv kick in my Legacy mech mod, 18650 with kick extension.

Don't use it very often though because I usually vape above the 20 watt range.

 

[Mermaaan]

Or just get this when it drops.
$15.92 SXK Atto Styled 18350/18650 Mechanical Mod - stainless steel at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping