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2014 - Mechs are out

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AndriaD

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A lot of the irritated mech users took offense to my statement that IMO a regulated vape = a better vape. I am not talking taste here. I am talking range of operation, stability of vapor output and quality and proper usage of batteries to their full capacity.

Some veterant members seem to take exception to my comment since I am a member since March and not qualified to make a statement. I call this being reactionary and it stifles progress, (IMO).

A lot of people here seem to disagree with and take exception to probably half of everything I write in the forum, and I've only been here since January, and hey, I'm temporarily back to dual use, so obviously I know nothing at all about anything.

Get used to it; it happens a lot around here. Best fix I can find is don't post anything serious about anything you feel strongly about, that way when people disagree and start throwing rocks at you, who cares? ;)

Andria
 

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I really liked my Tesla VV/VW, but man I LOVE the dreadnaught mechanical using currently. I don't care if a digital can push the same power it will not compare. All that's required on a mechanical is building the proper coil setup to vape, and not burn. Simple as that. Say a regulated digital dread came out. What would be the point of using that compared to my mech? My coil setup doesn't need regulation. It does so itself. The only thing I would be able to do is down the power, and I'm really not wanting to do that for any reason... I would also feel comfortable vaping the mech while discharging my half million volt tesla coil. Not so much with a digital and it's small shortable circuitry.
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Amp limits
You guys keep ignoring the amp limits of your regulated mods.

Amazing how Many people here have no idea how their device works yet continue to argue.

Regulated mods have amp limit protection built in.
This limits their ability to perform when using really low ohm coils.


amps mean nothing when your holy grail is a 4+ year old regulated device and an iclear30b.
 

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It's kind of like comparing the spark gap on my Tesla coil to a vacuum tube solid state design. If I want to run more power out of my coil I up the gap size utilizing a basic mechanical design. If you want to do the same on a solid state device you're looking at much more. My spark gap will never fail, and a vacuum tube will... Besides I like the sound of a spark gap discharging it's intense LOL...
 

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I checked out this thread thinking I was going to find info on some of the newer gear coming out this year. But I've just been steady reading this thing with a fair amount of amusement:) I personally don't see what the deal is. Let whoever likes their setup do it how they please and carry on:) mech, regulated hell if they wanna suck a cloud machine and it works for them I'm happy for them!:)

sent from my damned S4!:)
 

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Amp limits
You guys keep ignoring the amp limits of your regulated mods.

Amazing how Many people here have no idea how their device works yet continue to argue.

Regulated mods have amp limit protection built in.
This limits their ability to perform when using really low ohm coils.

Yes you are right the safety properties of regulated mods are one of the most sought after capability. Here are the specs of the 50Watt regulated mod on iPV 50 w box mod by pioneer4u
 

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A lot of people here seem to disagree with and take exception to probably half of everything I write in the forum, and I've only been here since January, and hey, I'm temporarily back to dual use, so obviously I know nothing at all about anything.

Get used to it; it happens a lot around here. Best fix I can find is don't post anything serious about anything you feel strongly about, that way when people disagree and start throwing rocks at you, who cares? ;)

Andria

Andrial - hang in there. You seem like a very good person. Hoping for all the best to come your way.

Nothing further to post. This thread started wrong and has continued down that road.

Op, sorry you and I cannot sword fight in a honorable fashion. I never understood people Making a locked statement then assuming they had started an open discussion.
Maybe you should look into a TOBH for the 26650 and some pre-made wicks. Quick setup and might prove impressive.(just a suggestion):)
 

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Andrial - hang in there. You seem like a very good person. Hoping for all the best to come your way.

Nothing further to post. This thread started wrong and has continued down that road.

Op, sorry you and I cannot sword fight in a honorable fashion. I never understood people Making a locked statement then assuming they had started an open discussion.
Maybe you should look into a TOBH for the 26650 and some pre-made wicks. Quick setup and might prove impressive.(just a suggestion):)

You are so full of yourself that you may bust and it will stink.
 
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It's kind of like comparing the spark gap on my Tesla coil to a vacuum tube solid state design. If I want to run more power out of my coil I up the gap size utilizing a basic mechanical design. If you want to do the same on a solid state device you're looking at much more. My spark gap will never fail, and a vacuum tube will... Besides I like the sound of a spark gap discharging it's intense LOL...
How's that vertical hold circuit working out utilizing that Tesla coil? Good s/n ratio?
 

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Yes you are right the safety properties of regulated mods are one of the most sought after capability. Here are the specs of the 50Watt regulated mod on iPV 50 w box mod by pioneer4u
We're finding out that they might not be solid specs..it's looking like the sx330 can buck voltage down to 2.2volts or lower.
 

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Yes you are right the safety properties of regulated mods are one of the most sought after capability. Here are the specs of the 50Watt regulated mod on iPV 50 w box mod by pioneer4u

You seek limitations?
You need protection from yourself?

Lol
Ya that's a prime example of why many Vapers do not like or need a regulated device.
Money spent on features and limitations some just don't need or want.

When your last regulated device fails, my first mechanical
Will still function exactly like the day I bought it.

The only limitations on a mech is the battery and the build.
If you don't understand what's happening when you fire the coils, then yes, you should probably stick to regulated devices.
 

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I think if the OP's experience with mechanicals is limited to using pre-built coils/clears/cartos, as his posting history suggests, I would conclude that he's missing out on a entire world of vaping that he may ultimately end up enjoying.

Hahahahaha. Oh boy. That was good!!!
 

Ryedan

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Amp limits
You guys keep ignoring the amp limits of your regulated mods.

Amazing how Many people here have no idea how their device works yet continue to argue.

Regulated mods have amp limit protection built in.
This limits their ability to perform when using really low ohm coils.

I never go over 60 watts so amp limits don't concern me. I also know how my device works. Quite well actually, LOL.

Thanks your concern though :thumb:
 

suspectK

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Yes you are right the safety properties of regulated mods are one of the most sought after capability. Here are the specs of the 50Watt regulated mod on iPV 50 w box mod by pioneer4u
And I think functioning the same start to finish and adjusting power without manipulating resistance are the only logical reasons to use a regulated device over a mech. IMNSHO
 

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Now that high wattage regulated mods are common and cheap IMO, there are no valid reasons for buying/using mechs .

This fast evolving e-cig technology reminds me of the photography revolution with digital replacing films. In the mid 90's digital cameras were crap and film photographers ridiculed the technology. In the early 2000's digital had surpassed film in all aspects of photography. But is was still common on photography forums for die-hards film users to be in denial of the obvious superiority of digital over film.

Is this the same with mech users who refuse to face the fact that regulated mods are superior in every aspect of vaping. Security, quality, reliability. ...etc. I detect an undertone of elitism in mech users. It was the same with film photographers in those days.

Mechs are cheaper than an equivalent regulated mod, IMO not cheap enough to accept its limitations. I predict that very soon many mechanical mods will be laying in landfills and vaping museums.

Regulated mods are not nearly as common as mechanicals. To call them common is a bit unfounded without a bit more data to quantify the statement.

Also, you say they are cheap, cheap to one is expensive to another. A quick scan of posts here on ECF will show a wide range of opinions on what cheap means.

You claim no valid reason exists to buy mechanicals, I do not agree. I do not value the capabilities of current regulated mods over the aesthetic nature of the mechanical offerings.

In terms of device evolution regulated mods are certainly representative of a broadening of product offerings in this market.

The problem with placing regulated mods in a better category is that better label needs to be defined and listed side by side with every other attribute. The buyer then determines what best suits their need; mechanical or regulated may not matter at all to someone who places small form factor as their most important buying criteria.

There are some truly fantastic regulated mods out there, as well as some mechanicals.

The two types of mods are in different races, they can both win, but due to their very differences they do not race against each other.

Maurice
 

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Let's take a mech and a regulated mod, and let's continually drop them on the ground...then, lets drop them in a bucket of water. I'm lazy, so I'm going to dry them off in a drier machine.. one is still working.

My only experience so far has been with my regulated P...... mod hitting the concrete deck a half dozen times.....knocked into the toilet once (not clean water either) and dried in my commercial dehydrator. Wish I would have thought about the dryer cause I know it would have survived :D
 
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