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30 AWG, Sacre Bleu!

Discussion in 'Wick and Wire' started by hell_storm2004, Jun 30, 2018.

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  1. hell_storm2004

    hell_storm2004 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 17, 2013
    Richardson, Texas, USA
    Hello Everyone,

    How in the world do you build with this wire? The wire is thinner than a modern day size 0 model. Jiggly. Gets messed up when passing the wicks through the coil. Absolute trouble. :yawn:

    24s/26s are far more comfortable. :wub:
     
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  2. Beamslider

    Beamslider Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 29, 2017
    San Francisco
    You can twist it into 2 wire strand. I have done that and it is good. I have also used it single strand for old style cartomizer rebuild.
     
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  3. hell_storm2004

    hell_storm2004 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 17, 2013
    Richardson, Texas, USA
    Two wire strand? Is there a pic or a video for reference?
     
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  4. Beamslider

    Beamslider Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 29, 2017
    San Francisco
    You can take a long strand of the wire and put it thru the clip on a pocket pen. Hold the loose ends and rotate the pen on your leg or other surface to twist together.

    Or use a drill


     
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  5. Myk

    Myk Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jan 1, 2009
    IL, USA
    The way we used to do it when 30ga was needed was to wrap it around the fireproof silica wicks. Or wrap it around the stainless steel mesh wicks.

    I skipped the whole passing cotton through until 26ga.
     
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  6. untar

    untar Vaping Master

    Feb 7, 2018
    Germany


    You can also do it without power tools, just need a weight, pass the wire through, let it hang and spin it, that could be just about anything like scissors or a wrench. Won't be as tight as the power tool version but will work anyways.
     
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  7. TrollDragon

    TrollDragon ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Dec 3, 2014
    NS, Canada
    You just need to up your wrapping and wicking game... ;)

    Boden made some fine triple parallel 30ga Radiator coils back in the day.
    [​IMG]
     
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  8. untar

    untar Vaping Master

    Feb 7, 2018
    Germany
    Not to be confused with Gladiator coils
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  9. TrollDragon

    TrollDragon ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Dec 3, 2014
    NS, Canada
    Also if you feed half thick pieces of wick through from each side, you can pull the ends so it's full thickness in the coil without much deformation.

    We called that the Double Insertion method in the Rayon thread. ;)
     
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  10. TrollDragon

    TrollDragon ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Dec 3, 2014
    NS, Canada
    Nice coils those! ;)

    Too much maintenance though...
     
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  11. puffon

    puffon Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 18, 2014
    Florida
    Practice with 28g annealed Ni200.
    30g Kanthal will feel like coat hanger wire, after you master the Ni200....
     
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  12. Rossum

    Rossum Surly Curmudgeon Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Dec 14, 2013
    NE FL
    I like three stands of 30 gauge twisted. That's been a go-to for me for a long time.

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  13. Zaryk

    Zaryk Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 25, 2018
    Ohio
    While not easy, wrapping and wicking can be done. I have done coils with 30g successfully. I still prefer 28g though. I rarely use anything lower than 28g, and when I do I only go down to 26g.

    A tip for wicking thin gauge wire, I wick it loosely and then take a needle and make an empty space in the center of the wicks inside the coil, then use a piece of 30g wire and wrap it around a small piece of wicking material and pull it through the center of the wick inside the coil to tighten it all up and not distort the coil. It is more time consuming and tedious, but works if you want to put the time into it.
     
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  14. hell_storm2004

    hell_storm2004 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 17, 2013
    Richardson, Texas, USA
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  15. untar

    untar Vaping Master

    Feb 7, 2018
    Germany
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  16. hell_storm2004

    hell_storm2004 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 17, 2013
    Richardson, Texas, USA
    So I will give twisting a try when my current ugly coils go crap. I will also have to try thinner wicks! But just a thought, if i twist, would the resistance go up significantly for the same number of coil wraps?
     
  17. untar

    untar Vaping Master

    Feb 7, 2018
    Germany
    Why would it go up? With 2 strands it halves in comparison to 1 strand of wire. Through twisting you will slightly increase the resistance (more wire per inch) but to get it even to the same resistance as the single strand you have to twist twice the length of wire into the same length as the single, that'd be a pretty tight twist.

    Your resistance will be between 0.5 and 1 times that of a single strand, the less twisted the closer to 0.5. I never got to the original resistance of single wire with my twisted ones (but I didn't twist them religiously).
     
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  18. Beamslider

    Beamslider Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 29, 2017
    San Francisco
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  19. hell_storm2004

    hell_storm2004 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 17, 2013
    Richardson, Texas, USA

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    Sorry... had to do it! :p:p:p:p:p
     
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  20. TrollDragon

    TrollDragon ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Dec 3, 2014
    NS, Canada
    Why the interest in 30ga wire, you rebuilding some Protank coils? :)
     
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