36mg nicotine too much?

[Scotticus93]

Throat hit is like a peppery sensation.

Harshness is just that, harsh. It's more like a sandpaper sensation or a sore throat. Often with a burnt feel or taste.

Harshness can be caused by several things, overheating the eliquid, cheap ingredients, badly designed coils (again, related to overheating) where not all of the coil is within the airflow stream, If the coil is too wide so the middle is cooled but the sides overheat or has an ID that is too large so only the port facing side is cooled while the other side is in a air shadow.

Premade coils or attys with poor airflow stability or high turbulence.

High VG liquid will mask these problems somewhat because of VG's higher boiling point and tendency to have higher flavoring percentage per volume.

Throat hit is like a peppery sensation.

Harshness is just that, harsh. It's more like a sandpaper sensation or a sore throat. Often with a burnt feel or taste.

Harshness can be caused by several things, overheating the eliquid, cheap ingredients, badly designed coils (again, related to overheating) where not all of the coil is within the airflow stream, If the coil is too wide so the middle is cooled but the sides overheat or has an ID that is too large so only the port facing side is cooled while the other side is in a air shadow.

Premade coils or attys with poor airflow stability or high turbulence.

High VG liquid will mask these problems somewhat because of VG's higher boiling point and tendency to have higher flavoring percentage per volume.

I'm glad you're the devils advocate. Always funny arguing with you. I think my stm premades have plenty airflow and have heard nothing but good things about the crown and tfv4 which I will eventually get my hands on. I disagree with the whole vg thing tho. I know when my juice is burning and too harsh. With proper wicking and airflow you can get decent flavor on higher vg juices. Yes sometimes you gotta add more flavoring but that's just how it goes. Like I said. I vape 50 50 right now. But I can see how people like higher vg. I'm starting to move away from throat hit. Even tho I used to like a lot. Now IDC about it much. But that's just a preference thing. No right or wrong there

 

[Scotticus93]

Throat hit is like a peppery sensation.

Harshness is just that, harsh. It's more like a sandpaper sensation or a sore throat. Often with a burnt feel or taste.

Harshness can be caused by several things, overheating the eliquid, cheap ingredients, badly designed coils (again, related to overheating) where not all of the coil is within the airflow stream, If the coil is too wide so the middle is cooled but the sides overheat or has an ID that is too large so only the port facing side is cooled while the other side is in a air shadow.

Premade coils or attys with poor airflow stability or high turbulence.

High VG liquid will mask these problems somewhat because of VG's higher boiling point and tendency to have higher flavoring percentage per volume.

I'm vaping so I don't smoke -- and smoking rarely ever bothered my asthma, unless I had a bad cold -- anything that caused even more mucus than smoking does, was a bad thing for me. In fact I refused to take steroids for my asthma at all, when I smoked, because I didn't need them -- but now I do.

VG is just too thick and sticky; it really does glue my airways closed, and even the rescue inhaler doesn't help it much; it constantly feels like I have a hairball in my chest that I just can't cough up. I suspect the thickness of it means my lungs can't clear it away fast enough for me to avoid feeling it, whereas PG is thin, my lungs can clear it away, and I never even notice it.

I find it utterly incomprehensible that ANYONE can inhale vast quantities of VG and not suffocate... but then again, most people aren't sucking on a rescue inhaler 8-10 times a day either.

Andria

Aren't rescue inhalers only for like emergency or couple times a day? Guess it depends on how bad your asthma is. I never have felt how you and that other guy feel about vg. Of course the last time I used a truly max vg juice it was back when I was tootling on an iclear 16. I havent really tried over 60 vg in my stm yet. And maybe y'all vape more too. Not saying that's a bad thing. I can't really vape at work. But it doesn't bother me. I fall in that only smoking for a short time group. I still do occasionally when I drink but I need to stop doing that lol

 

[Boden]

Aren't rescue inhalers only for like emergency or couple times a day? Guess it depends on how bad your asthma is. I never have felt how you and that other guy feel about vg. Of course the last time I used a truly max vg juice it was back when I was tootling on an iclear 16. I havent really tried over 60 vg in my stm yet. And maybe y'all vape more too. Not saying that's a bad thing. I can't really vape at work. But it doesn't bother me. I fall in that only smoking for a short time group. I still do occasionally when I drink but I need to stop doing that lol

I Vape around three mL a day. I run about eight miles a day and can definitely tell a difference when I have vaped over 40% VG. 16 mg/mL 66/33 1% flavor is my sweet spot.

 

[Scotticus93]

I Vape around three mL a day. I run about eight miles a day and can definitely tell a difference when I have vaped over 40% VG. 16 mg/mL 66/33 1% flavor is my sweet spot.

Didn't know you were a runner. And yeah that's s good ratio. I use that for my diy too

 

[Boden]

Didn't know you were a runner. And yeah that's s good ratio. I use that for my diy too

When I went from 10% VG to 33% I was all "Clouds Bro!!! "

 

[edyle]

I used to vape 36mg on my egos but since moving upto more powerful vapes i use 9mg on a 0.5 ohm coil. I really do think the more nicotine the better though. Nothing wrong with 36mg.

36mg at 5 watts
is equivalent to
9mg at 20 watts

 

[AndriaD]

Aren't rescue inhalers only for like emergency or couple times a day? Guess it depends on how bad your asthma is. I never have felt how you and that other guy feel about vg. Of course the last time I used a truly max vg juice it was back when I was tootling on an iclear 16. I havent really tried over 60 vg in my stm yet. And maybe y'all vape more too. Not saying that's a bad thing. I can't really vape at work. But it doesn't bother me. I fall in that only smoking for a short time group. I still do occasionally when I drink but I need to stop doing that lol

My rescue inhaler is prescribed as "2 puffs 4 times a day as needed." Sometimes it's 8 puffs a day, or sometimes even 10 if I'm havng a bad day. After using a rescue inhaler for 30 yrs, you get to the point that anytime your breathing isn't optimum, you grab the inhaler.

I smoked for 39 yrs. So anything I can do to avoid smoking is in the plus column. I vape all day everyday, about 5-6ml per day.

Andria

 

[Old Curmudgeon]

If you want throat hit, up the amount of pg, not the nic. I can't understand why people like that, but to each their own.

Agreed the higher PG helps. I started with 36 but am now at 3mgs. Upping the PG & going from a carto tank to a sub ohm setup made a HUGE difference for me.

 

[Scotticus93]

When I went from 10% VG to 33% I was all "Clouds Bro!!! "

That's nothing lol. Gotta have like 50 and up to have clouds

 

[Scotticus93]

My rescue inhaler is prescribed as "2 puffs 4 times a day as needed." Sometimes it's 8 puffs a day, or sometimes even 10 if I'm havng a bad day. After using a rescue inhaler for 30 yrs, you get to the point that anytime your breathing isn't optimum, you grab the inhaler.

I smoked for 39 yrs. So anything I can do to avoid smoking is in the plus column. I vape all day everyday, about 5-6ml per day.

Andria

Which I suppose is a lot considering your a tootle? I can vape 5 or 6 ml in an evening lol. And hey whatever works. I used to use advsir I just heard its kinda bad for you. And it made me kinda hyper

 

[AndriaD]

Which I suppose is a lot considering your a tootle? I can vape 5 or 6 ml in an evening lol. And hey whatever works. I used to use advsir I just heard its kinda bad for you. And it made me kinda hyper

Well, it takes me 14-16 hrs and you can do it in an evening. Which sounds like more of "a lot" to you?

Tootle puffing RULES.

The 500/50 Advair does give me some insomnia problems; I've started using that one when I get up, and using the 250/50 at bedtime, so I can sleep better. I don't have as many problems in the morning as I used to, since I quit smoking, so it works out well.

Andria

 

[DC2]

btw, the pg allergy thing is a myth.

Thank you.

I would have said "mostly" a myth though.
But yeah, most of these PG allergies are not PG allergies.

 

[AndriaD]

Thank you.

I would have said "mostly" a myth though.
But yeah, most of these PG allergies are not PG allergies.

I mostly agree -- not to say that PG allergy doesn't exist, because people can be allergic to some damned weird stuff -- I'm allergic to gypsum! No plaster casts for me!

But, PG *can* be quite irritating, and everyone has a different threshold of irritation -- as much as I depend on my 85% PG, if I go to 90%, it burns the hell out of my throat and nasal/sinus tissues. Conversely... I can *slather* myself with glycerin, with zero ill effect -- Neutrogena soap proved quite beneficial for my stubborn acne; but breathing as little as 20% of it renders me quite unable to breathe.

Andria

 

[DC2]

I think the vast majority of "PG allergies" reported here are symptoms of quitting smoking.

And I believe that MOST of this PG allergies thing is a myth that has propagated far too long.
But it's not the first vaping myth and it won't be the last.

 

[bluecat]

I think the vast majority of "PG allergies" reported here are symptoms of quitting smoking.

And I believe that MOST of this PG allergies thing is a myth that has propagated far too long.
But it's not the first vaping myth and it won't be the last.

It is very very very very very, did I say very?, rare to have a glycerin allergy.

Of course my two daughters have very very very very very rare conditions. One daughter has a condition that was the first case in 20 years in the tri state area. While very rare there is always somebody or diagnosed.

 

[HauntedMyst]

36mg nicotine too much?

For a toddler, yes. In my experience, kids can be really wimpy. "Wahhhh!! That's too much nic!" "Wahhhh!! That ghost pepper hot sauce makes me cry" "Wahhhh! I fall off the back when you go over 65 on the motorcycle!" "Wahhhh! I don't like it when you get really drunk and make mommy chase you around with a meat cleaver threatening to kill you" Whiney punks.

 

[Scotticus93]

Well, it takes me 14-16 hrs and you can do it in an evening. Which sounds like more of "a lot" to you?

Tootle puffing RULES.

The 500/50 Advair does give me some insomnia problems; I've started using that one when I get up, and using the 250/50 at bedtime, so I can sleep better. I don't have as many problems in the morning as I used to, since I quit smoking, so it works out well.

Andria

Honestly when I was tootle puffing back when that was in the main stream. I would be lucky to empty an innokin iclear 30 in a day. It's all relative. I do vape a lot in the evening sometimes but mostly when I'm drinking. The stm guzzles juice. I'm scared to buy a crown or tfv4 but I know I will eventually and I might just go full diy at that time

 

[Bunnykiller]

36mg at 5 watts
is equivalent to
9mg at 20 watts

then what is 36 nic at 33watts? and what about tootle puffing compared to clouding direct to lung?
doing comparative math, then Im doing 1180 mg nic at 1 watt

 

[edyle]

36mg at 5 watts
is equivalent to
9mg at 20 watts

then what is 36 nic at 33watts? and what about tootle puffing compared to clouding direct to lung?
doing comparative math, then Im doing 1180 mg nic at 1 watt

1: "What is 36 nic at 33 watts?"
36 mg/ml nic at 33 watts is approx. equivalent to 119 mg/ml nic at 10 watts.

2: "what about tootle puffing compared to clouding direct to lung?"
what about it?

3: "Im doing 1180 mg nic at 1 watt"
So what is it? are you vaping 100mg at 10 watts or more like 10mg at 100 watts.

 

[newvaper92]

Everyone is different- I can't vape anything over 30% pg or I literally cough up a lung... The more vg the better and typically 6mg at around 50-60w. 36mg?!?!? I'd be throwing up after half a puff! 18mg knocks my socks off (but if only a puff or two, in a good way!) any more and I'm not feeling too great. Is it the nicotine you're looking for or the throat hit/sensation of smoking? I can't imagine 36mg at 90w is healthy for anyone! I never got any throat hit from the occasional smoking I did, and vaping has never felt like smoking to me so I don't try- I enjoy vaping for *vaping* and it is what it is.