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Eskie

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Wow, I though cigarettes were much cheaper in the US.

Worst in NY are the train stations, Grand Central and Penn Station are the two major commuter stations. Despite not being able to smoke in them, cigarettes are still sold to a "captive" audience in a rush who would like a smoke either when they got wherever, or leaving the station. Those rip off savvy retailers ask $15. And if you are rushing for a train, you'll usually pay it.

Edit: to be clear, prices in the US vary widely as some states and cities levy different taxes. A pack in Texas is only ~$5, and in Mississippi I've paid as little as $3.50. NY is about the worst with both state and city tax.
 

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A pack of cigarettes is ~$12 in NY. And I smoked a pack and a half. That was an expensive habit.
The smoke from one cigarette has 1 mg of nic. At $12 a pack that's 60 cents per mg. A 1 liter, $50 bottle of 100mg concentrate has 100,000 mg of nic. So if the liquified nic in that 1 liter bottle was priced the same as nic in cigarette smoke the bottle would cost $60,000. Here in michigan where cigs cost about half that it's still $30,000. vaping crushes smoking on cost. This is why our dear, dear government and their tax funded chronies are going psychotic over the issue.
 

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    ahah i was just trying to let you know what its like here..... I really want to make my own liquid but its very hard to get the required supplies in dubai i think. :/ I really want to start so lets see if i can find whats needed.

    Here in Chicago, they are around $13+ a pack of 20 cigarettes. It's what drove me to vaping, and I do not plan on stopping. Best thing that ever happened to me.
     

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    Worst in NY are the train stations, Grand Central and Penn Station are the two major commuter stations. Despite not being able to smoke in them, cigarettes are still sold to a "captive" audience in a rush who would like a smoke either when they got wherever, or leaving the station. Those rip off savvy retailers ask $15. And if you are rushing for a train, you'll usually pay it.

    Edit: to be clear, prices in the US vary widely as some states and cities levy different taxes. A pack in Texas is only ~$5, and in Mississippi I've paid as little as $3.50. NY is about the worst with both state and city tax.

    I never checked to see what a pack of smokes goes for at Chicago's Union Station. Hate to imagine.
     
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    Here in Chicago, they are around $13+ a pack of 20 cigarettes. It's what drove me to vaping, and I do not plan on stopping. Best thing that ever happened to me.

    I dont live too far from the city. Its about a 45min train ride. Last year when i went up there for a car show, the stop-n-rob around the corner had my "favorite brand" for 21$!! Before tax... that is too ridiculous
     

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    I dont live too far from the city. Its about a 45min train ride. Last year when i went up there for a car show, the stop-n-rob around the corner had my "favorite brand" for 21$!! Before tax... that is too ridiculous

    $21 + TAX! Sounds more like you are buying dinner for two.
     

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    A mere 22 months ago I started vaping. Six weeks later I wasn't a smoker any more. Sure I feel better, sleep better, get more done in life and work. Isn't that swell? But I mark the occaision because in that time I haven't spent FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS on cigarettes. Not chump change. Read and weep Mr. Big Government tax collector.

    I was spending about $165/month when I switched. And have been switched for over 60 Months.

    So I'm about at the 10,000 Dollar Mark.

    And although I think it is Great, I think the Music is Starting to End in a lot of States. As well as on the Federal Level.

    :(
     
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    Mowgli

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    Congratulations!
    We spent about $600/month on smokes between me & the Mrs.
    We both switched to vaping about $24,000 ago
    Bills are paid and we have a couple of grand of gear/nic stocked to fight the future
    We've been vaping my DIY for over 3 years for ~$15/month
    Vaping's as expensive as you let it be
    I'd rather be in the black than have blackened lungs
    #vapingsavedmylife & my credit score
     

    Alter

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    My wife and I were spending between $600-700 a month on smoking cigs, that was 3 years ago. Already spent the money on gear so our DIY juice is costing us less than $20 a month now. We used the extra money to first buy a new 2015 Canyon, then traded it for a 2016 Silverado right off the lot, something we couldn't afford when we were smoking cigs.
     

    Eskie

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    I'm trying to figure how at a pack and a half a day I spent ~$6,700 a year on that. Where did that amount come from? It's not exactly pocket change. More important, where is that money now, because it's still not in my pocket, and I didn't spend $6K stockpiling. Honest, I didn't.

    For real, I'm sure I didn't. Maybe.
     

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    I'm trying to figure how at a pack and a half a day I spent ~$6,700 a year on that. Where did that amount come from? It's not exactly pocket change. More important, where is that money now, because it's still not in my pocket, and I didn't spend $6K stockpiling. Honest, I didn't.

    For real, I'm sure I didn't. Maybe.
    That's the thing about smoking traditional cigarettes. No matter they cost, we've nothing substantial left to show for it.

    What I find utterly amazing is how we were always able to find the money for cigarettes and pay it regardless of how much that pack or carton cost but when it comes to vaping folks are always looking for a bargain, discount or coupon code. :p
     

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    I did the math for the fun of it.

    Where I live, cigarettes cost $6 per pack when I quit (Don't know the current prices).
    I smoked a pack per day and my wife also smoked a pack per day.

    On a rough estimate we've both been entirely smoke free for 950 days. At $12 per day that works out to $11,400 saved by not smoking.

    Our total investment to date in vaping is still less than $1,500 over the past 3 years. So that gives me a net savings of roughly $9,900. It's actually higher than that because we both were tapering off our smoking for a few months before we quit entirely, but that's what we've saved since we quit smoking entirely.

    Not counting medical and medical insurance expenses.
     

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    Good for you @sofarsogood! I'm 23 months and 2 days into vaping and I've not spent a tad over $2,700, and haven't smoked about 7,000 cigarettes! That estimate is just on cigarettes. I haven't calculated the other expenses related to cigarette smoking (lighters and/or lighter fluid, extra car wear and tear, whatever). I've spent slightly less than $600 on vaping!
     

    sofarsogood

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    I did the math for the fun of it.

    Where I live, cigarettes cost $6 per pack when I quit (Don't know the current prices).
    I smoked a pack per day and my wife also smoked a pack per day.

    On a rough estimate we've both been entirely smoke free for 950 days. At $12 per day that works out to $11,400 saved by not smoking.

    Our total investment to date in vaping is still less than $1,500 over the past 3 years. So that gives me a net savings of roughly $9,900. It's actually higher than that because we both were tapering off our smoking for a few months before we quit entirely, but that's what we've saved since we quit smoking entirely.

    Not counting medical and medical insurance expenses.
    The premier argument for baning vaping is to protect children. That's ironic because kids are the primary beneficiaries of vaping. When parents who smoke switch to vaping the household finances improve substantially. Kids are far far more skilled at soaking up lose cash than any tax collector. That's where the savings will go and that's where it should go.
     
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