50% Vape tax?
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Same reason I say a lot of things...
Why don't you have a funny and clever retort to my post?
Ahh... I see. Just being playful huh? Nah, I haven't been in the mood lately. Ever since the doctor put me on these new drugs.
This forum was the first ever e-cig/vaping forum created. The people here have been fighting the government since day 1 of vaping.
Their fight paved the way for everyone who came after them. At this point many have come close to ptsd from all the fighting, all the jumping up and down screaming trying to have their voices heard by John Q public and various government entities.
Those who came late to the party will have to be the one's to take vaping forward from here - and that's just honest.
Jumping up and down screaming at the people without whom vaping wouldn't currently exist legally at all does little good. Take the torch you were given and run with it, and develop a sense of humor, you'll need one for the fight.
If you don't laugh, you will cry.
We've got similar taxes for vaping in the pipeline in my country (Canada) on top of a upcoming flavor ban in September.
Fight the good fight stand and be heard so no matter what happens you know you did all you could In the end. Honestly here in the States less than 2% (estimated) of vapers ever actively joined in fights to protect vaping, flavor bans, restrictions, taxes... While the vast majority took a seat and waited for non paid advocates to fight for them. If more would have taken an active stance from the start we would not be in the sad situation we face now. Government does what government does at all levels, and the more they got away with the worse it got, only its citizens can keep it in check.
I agree with everything you've said but the truth is most people go along to get along. I wrote a letter to my member of parliament, they sent me a canned response about the fight against covid-19. Most people are cowards scared of their own shadows.
I know river supply is not the only place for flavorings, it's just the one I used when I started DIY. And kept using as a loyal customer. So much for loyalty, right? In fact, i have considered ordering direct from the manufacturers.
I'm that way with Bull City, if they ever went out of business I'd probably cry.
I about did when LNW stopped selling retail...
I never really envisioned that the government would force stop nicotine sales to retail consumers, I figured they'd tax it but not stop it altogether. Now I can't buy my favorite VG since it came from LNW.But there are several things we can buy from manufacturers - I do for all my medicine flower flavors anyway because buying direct was cheaper than going through RS and you could get samples free to boot with an order.
But yeah, we'll just have to readjust as businesses close... best we can do.
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Only %50?
At the first of this year voters in my state voted in a %65 tax on vaping related stuff.
Needless to say I don't plan on buying anything further.
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At the first of this year voters in my state voted in a %65 tax on vaping related stuff.
Needless to say I don't plan on buying anything further.
g.
In my state it's a 6.6 cent tax per ml on e-liquids, on top of normal sales tax (mg don't matter, the tax is the same whether it's zero mg or 100). For a 1,000 ml (liter) bottle that's an additional 66 dollars...
However, they aren't taxing gear outside of regular sales tax - which is a plus. Might be the direction Federal taxes go.
Here in WV e-liq tax has gone from 7.5 cents per 10 ml to 75 cents per 10 ml! That's 75 bucks, tax, on a 100 ml bottle!I guess it can be regional where different states charge different percentage 
OMG is quite the understatement. I realize that some other states have outrageous taxes, and I knew that sooner or later my state would too. Just makes me gladder every day that I got into DIY several years ago.
I really wouldn't have expected that from West Virginia... at all. I figured they'd do about what Virginia is, something half-way reasonable anyway.
Some of the Counties in SW Virginia considered petitioning to join WV instead of Virginia not very long ago... guess the vaper vote for that is gone!
Dang.. they must really hate the fact people are quitting smoking there.
Makes me all the more glad to live in the great state of Texas. No excise taxes and none in the works. It doesn't mean that there can't be one in the future, but so far so good.
I really feel for you guys over there in the US,can't believe what hoops you have to jump thru so you can keep on vaping.
I was wondering thou,since i don't watch american television...has there been any interview conducted where they actually ask a politician why the huge increment in taxes?
I mean like i have said before,cigarettes? sure i can understand why,here in Spain i think taxes amount to 80% of the final cost of a pack of cigarettes.
While that number is high i can see why,people get more sick and our public healthcare system has more expenses because of it.
But vaping? there is no excuse for a 50% vape tax,nobody died from vaping,people who vape don't cost the government a dime (unless you count the loss of sales of cigarettes) so i am wondering what excuse do the corrupt people in charge blabber out when asked about that drastic increment in tax?
I was wondering thou,since i don't watch american television...has there been any interview conducted where they actually ask a politician why the huge increment in taxes?
I mean like i have said before,cigarettes? sure i can understand why,here in Spain i think taxes amount to 80% of the final cost of a pack of cigarettes.
While that number is high i can see why,people get more sick and our public healthcare system has more expenses because of it.
But vaping? there is no excuse for a 50% vape tax,nobody died from vaping,people who vape don't cost the government a dime (unless you count the loss of sales of cigarettes) so i am wondering what excuse do the corrupt people in charge blabber out when asked about that drastic increment in tax?
Firstly, here in the U.S. we grow a lot of tobacco and its a portion of our annual GDP. The tobacco lobby here is huge, as a result. There's a lot of money at stake when you look at Tobacco as an industry here.
Not only that, but when states settled with tobacco companies over the public health concerns and subsequent costs to states, many states took the payments in tobacco bonds...
Well, if people truly stop smoking those bonds loose their value, and the states loose out - therefore, many individual states are willing to do anything not to loose money - and vaping IS a real and present danger to the future of Tobacco - especially because nicotine can be synthesized.
So all in all, it's fear of the economic impact that smokers actually quitting poses... they don't give a damn about the people sick and dying, tobacco is big business.
And that's all without bringing up the pharmaceutical companies that sell worthless "stop smoking aids", that too is big business... can't have something that actually works running around.
There's big dollars at stake, easier to make vaping illegal or too expensive to use than to threaten those industries here.
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I don't watch American television, or any television for that matter, so I don't know for sure if there has been a televised event of such a nature. I do follow the news fairly closely, and I'm pretty sure there hasn't. Such an interview would be fantastic though. If verifiable data could be got that this was a 'leak' or it was made known that this particular segment never made it to the publics' eyes and/or ears would probably make it more sensational. All that is pure folly though, a politician would merely have to say, "It's for the kids.." or some such BS, and then regurgitate falsehoods.
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