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[timatao]

i have devolped some type of reaction to pg/vg.
i have tried 100% pg, 100%vg and all sorts of mix of pg/vg.
nothing works.
i went back to cigarettes and it is terrible.
i want to vape but the ........ caused by vaping is crippling me.

i was thinking of using just water and nicotine or using a mix of honey, water and nicotine.
please give some advice.

thank you

timatao

 

[jefsview]

Perhaps try here: Health, Safety and E-Smoking

 

[DaveOno]

i have devolped some type of reaction to pg/vg.
i have tried 100% pg, 100%vg and all sorts of mix of pg/vg.
nothing works.
i went back to cigarettes and it is terrible.
i want to vape but the ........ caused by vaping is crippling me.

i was thinking of using just water and nicotine or using a mix of honey, water and nicotine.
please give some advice.

thank you

timatao

timatao, a little more info would be useful. How long have you been off cigs (before the relapse?) What liquids have you vaped? and at what nic strength?

Take 2 pieces of advise, please. First, read jefsview's link to Health, Safety and E-Smoking. (nice, jeff)

Second, don't assume too quickly it is due to the VG or PG. The stress of quitting cigarettes is enough to bring on a bout. When it comes to your health, go consult with your doctor. We can advise you on very little; as opposed to a medical professional.

And I wish you the best. You'll get it all fixed!!!

 

[Rickajho]

You need to go see an MD before coming here and trying to connect dots between vaping and GI complaints. There are a handful of people who develop bowel problems - including Chron's disease - as a known side effect of quitting smoking. Starting vaping has nothing to do with it. This symptom - and anything else you have noticed - needs to be presented to your MD to find out what is going on.

 

[timatao]

my nic strength has varied. 36mg down to 6mg.

thanks for advice on doctors.

has anyone tried water and nicotine only or water, honey and nicotine?

timatao

also thank you jefsview.

 

[PNW Rider]

nicotine canbe a bear to dose correctly with vaping because the onset of effects is slower and milder than cigs. while it may be hard to tell that you are vaping 20mg nicotine, it deffinately makes me have to take a poop. i use a kayfun lite and compared to other atomizers, it tends to dose nicotine very well and i felt sick until i lowered my nic to less than 10 mg.
another sickening experience i have had was with a protank 2 when the coil was fired for longer than about 2 seconds the kanger atomizer heads would burn/melt the rubber grommet. it was kind of hard to spot the flavor of this over a good juice but once i realized what it was, felt sick for days and stopped using kanger ANYTHING. i have since rebuild the protank heads with 30 guage and cotton and it doesnt melt anything because of the lower resistance wire.
basically im trying to say that there could be a number of different things going on that may be causing you to not enjoying vaping. it has taken me since october to start really enjoying vaping. in that time i have rebuild hundreds and hundreds of atomisers, diluted juice down with VG and changed which atty i use three times.

dont give up, anything is possible when you put your mind to it, and i guarantee that vaping with YOUR perfect setup will be very satisfying. i had to give vaping a rest and clear my mind before a began to diagnose the problems that i was having before i made any headway. you may have 1 or more things working against you simultaneously.

 

[dutch onsea]

lower resistance wire will only make the temperature of your coil go up thus increasing the chance of melted grommets. Water in an atomiser will make you vape pure steam wich isn`t nice. You will get a hell of a throat hit though. Main ingredients of honey are water and sugar. The caramel will stick to your coils so that`s no good either. Have you tried vaping pure PG and VG so you can make sure to wich you are allergic? Allergic reactions can be very dangerous, believe me as a laboratory worker I work with dangerous chemicals every day and I`ve seen many of these reactions turn very ugly. Talk to your dokter

 

[RT88]

- moving to Ask the Experts - ........ section

dude seriously you must see a doctor NOW

 

[Rickajho]

This isn't funny or to be messed with. If the OP has developed Crohn's disease as a reaction to quitting smoking that is a potentially life threatening condition. You don't get ........ from an adverse reaction to inhaling PG or VG. An isolated bout of ........ could be anything. ........ described at so bad it's "crippling me" needs medical insight ASAP.

 

[MayLovesMetal]

As a person who developed refractory Ulcerative Colitis after quitting smoking without vaping and who now has no large intestine, I can't say this enough- see a doctor. There is a known percentage of people who develop IBS..Chron's, Colitis..with smoking cessation though the reason is not yet fully certain and probably complex. It could be something much more benign; a virus, nerves even but IBS is too serious not to rule it out. It strikes me as pretty unlikely for ........ to be a reaction to vaping pg or vg, too..drinking or eating it, maybe.

 

[Steamix]

Honey is a bad idea, sugar in the honey is going to caramelize. It's gonna gunk up your atty very fast. Also I don't thibk that charred sugar particles are good to inhale. Maybe more knowledgeable vapers can offer some insights...

Try PEG400 as base. Although it doesn't deliver a throat hit like PG does, it is a viable alternative for vapers which have averse or even allergic reactions to PG. Body does all kind of funny stuff when changing something, especially something rather drastic. Like NOT inhaling burning plant matter anymore...
Could be related to vaping, could be something else. Just to be on the safe side, I'd heed the advice of the posts before that one and pay my doc a visit....

 

[ycromo]

going to the doctor is always the right option if the condition is intense or prolonged, but I've also had some tummy discomfort at times, since i started vaping 3 months ago.
initially i thought it was a reaction to pg or vg, but I've now narrowed it to 3 factors. each person is different and vaping is not a consistent activity. things change from coil to coil and juice to juice and person to person. factors like stress and fiber intake and health conditions, can be the cause, but, as for vaping:
1) water. we simply don't get enough water. i didn't get enough water before vaping and i sure don't get enough now. dehydration can affect the output or your tummy (google it).
2) nicotine. amount of nicotine can vary wildly with coil setup, device, juice. too much nicotine will affect the output of your tummy (google it). vaping, specially until you find your stride, can involve large swings on nicotine intake.
3) flavors. some flavors immediately have an effect on me. normally the overly sweet or fancy dessert flavors. i've narrowed it to the artificial sweeteners, and some juices do have them, and to fancy sweet complex flavors. interestingly i never had this from the top notch juice producers, ahlusion, 5 pawns, etc. same as smokers, a percentage of the vapor does take a detour and goes to the stomach instead of the lungs.

some people are more sensitive to this than other, thus not a problem to the majority, and it is hard to find a discussion on this issue here (or anywhere). the above is my experience. one of the reasons i feel that vaping and juices production could use a bit more scrutiny (without the current FDA witch hunt approach).


since I increased the water intake, reduced the nicotine rate, and took to (using just a few) simple juices from top vendors, I've been problem free. except for stress. gotta find me a palliative for the wife/kids/taxes/work conundrum.

 

[Rickajho]

Thank you May.

 

[msgnyc]

When I began vaping exclusively I found myself having ........ on and off for about 2-3 weeks. My problem was that I found I was vaping too much and to often a high nic lvl 24. I cut back to 18 and tried not to chain vape all day and the ........ for the most part went away with the occasional spurts... here n there If I found myself chain vaping due to stress....
Once I stepped down to 12 and now under I can vape all day long without issue. On the ocassional stress filled day I may break out an 18mg liquid and vape the hell out of it and guess what comes back for a day or 2? XD

For comparison, I would have similar issues if I smoked too many cigarettes on a given day day aswell which is why I was able to attribute too much nicotine intake as the cause in my case.

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[Caridwen]

Moving to Health.

 

[Caridwen]

- moving to Ask the Experts - ........ section

dude seriously you must see a doctor NOW

Excuse me?

 

[mkbilbo]

i have devolped some type of reaction to pg/vg.
i have tried 100% pg, 100%vg and all sorts of mix of pg/vg.
nothing works.
i went back to cigarettes and it is terrible.
i want to vape but the ........ caused by vaping is crippling me.

i was thinking of using just water and nicotine or using a mix of honey, water and nicotine.
please give some advice.

thank you

timatao

You gotta be careful assuming that the two are connected. Just because something happened about the time you started vaping doesn't mean vaping is the cause.

An online forum is no substitute for an actual doctor.

 

[timatao]

i would like to thank everyone for thier help.

we think we found it.

Vegetable glycerins can irritate your respiratory system and gastrointestinal tract. If vegetable glycerin is accidentally inhaled, it can irritate the mucous membranes in the lungs and cause wheezing, swelling of the tongue and upper respiratory tract infections. High amounts of oral vegetable glycerin can upset your stomach and result in nausea, ........ and in rare cases inflammation of your gastrointestinal tract, called gastroenteritis.

when i switched to pg 100%, i did not give my system enough time to clear out.

timatao

 

[otrpu]

As a person who developed refractory Ulcerative Colitis after quitting smoking without vaping and who now has no large intestine, I can't say this enough- see a doctor. There is a known percentage of people who develop IBS..Chron's, Colitis..with smoking cessation though the reason is not yet fully certain and probably complex. It could be something much more benign; a virus, nerves even but IBS is too serious not to rule it out. It strikes me as pretty unlikely for ........ to be a reaction to vaping pg or vg, too..drinking or eating it, maybe.

A month or two after I started vaping I experienced several large and scary mouth ulcers. They told me it wasn't vape related, but when I stopped they cleared up. Started back up they returned. When I was heavy into vaping, like 5 or 6 3.5mL tanks a weekend day, I became concerned I might be vaping too much cinnamon. Decided to leave it out of my next DIY batch. A day or two later I discovered. . .I'd also left the nicotine out of that batch. Decided who needs it. From that point on I vaped nothing but 50/50 VG/PG until my last vape, Feb 6th. Took me several months to wean myself off the "hand to mouthy" ORAL GRATIFICATION thing. I smoked tobacco more than 52 years, 2.5 PAD when I started vaping. It was surprisingly easy to give both tobacco and vaping up. JMHO


Cheers,
otrpu

 

[timatao]

the one item wrong with the ecig as compared to a cig is the drip tip. a cig has a filter that keeps most of the tar from entering your mouth. the drip tip
has no filter. hence you do get nic,pg and vg into your mouth. once in your mouth you will get this in your stomach.
i love ecig but the ecig designers are out for the buck not safety. you spend $20.00 on a atomizer and it pops that day. come on.
another item of interest is the solder. how many atomizers/cartomizers use lead solder. now here you you are thinking you are improving your
health and your breathing the fumes from lead solder. thats right lead. everyone knows there are alot of poisions in cigs but the ecig people are making alot of
money selling very dangerous items. lead poisioning is quicker on you body, so dont think your healthier, just think you will poision yourself without even
knowing it.


timatao