6volt and attys?LR's dont seem to last

[dkonrai]

im a noob, so i buy a sparkplug, and installed the thermo tube and two 3v batteries.... and i blow out two attys. i used lr 510's and now they are dead. i also used a standard atty and that one went too (old one about three months old)
what am i supposed to use?
dino

 

[Diablo]

Your gonna want a High Resistance atty, 6volts is to many amps and watts for a LR atty.

Ohm's Law Calculator

Based on 6v and 1.5 atty you are pushing 4 amps and 24 watts(light bulb territory) will just fry it. I have not progressed to 6volts yet so maybe some folks can tell you what works good. But HR attys seem to be around 4.5 ohms. Probably can go a little lower for hotter or higher for cooler vape.


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[dkonrai]

yeah thats what i thought. i just got in 4 lr attys, and im broke... so the next order i might give a hv atty a go. maybe by then the maestrom will have hv attys?
dino

 

[Dudeman]

I've vaped at nothing but 6v for the past year. I don't know how you feel about cartos but the regular resistance (~3ohm's) Boge carto's work great at 6v.

IMHO 4.5 ohms is better suited for 7.4 volts. The vape was too cool for my liking at 6v. It's more like using a standard resistance atty at 3.7v.

You may want to give a standard resistance 801 atty as well. They hit pretty good at 6v.

 

[dkonrai]

dudeman,
i thought the hv atty's would run too cool too. im using a lr510 at 3.7 and love the vap. 4.5 at 6v may not be vappy (word?) enough? do they sell a in between, 3.5v?

 

[Hoosier]

Vapor production = heat = power and power is measure in Watts.

IF your battery can supply the current then P=VV/R. Power, in Watts, equals voltage squared divided by Resistance in Ohms. 4.5 Ohms at 6v is 33% more power than a 2 Ohm at 3.7v.

 

[dkonrai]

hoosier,
thanks for the electrical engineering aspect. being a plumber, that is pretty greek to me . its ok tho, if i understand:
4.5 attys should work pretty good on the 6v?
dino

 

[Silversmyth]

I tried the Thermo first time today.
Same problem here --blew 2 regular 510's
Not sure what ohm they were though--not LR i know.
Also had a problem trying Ultrafire 17670 batt in Thermo for 3.7.
Battery was a tab too short to fire--rattled in tube just a bit.
Any tips on either problem ???????
I do have some "Regular" Boge's--not sure of ohm though.

 

[Hoosier]

4.5 attys should work pretty good on the 6v?
dino

If you are looking for a harder TH and hotter vapor, then yes, it should work pretty well. (I can dial down my nic level when the vapor is warmer, so I know I like it.)

 

[Sandybeach40]

LR attys are not meant to be used on anything higher than 3.7 volt. You should never ever use them on a 6volt device.

 

[dkonrai]

I tried the Thermo first time today.
Same problem here --blew 2 regular 510's
Not sure what ohm they were though--not LR i know.
Also had a problem trying Ultrafire 17670 batt in Thermo for 3.7.
Battery was a tab too short to fire--rattled in tube just a bit.
Any tips on either problem ???????
I do have some "Regular" Boge's--not sure of ohm though.

is this a sparkplug thermo tube? i used two tenergy rcr123a 3.2 lifepo batteries. idk about the 17670 batts? if i use a single batt, its a 16340 3.7.
dino

 

[Silversmyth]

LR attys are not meant to be used on anything higher than 3.7 volt. You should never ever use them on a 6volt device.

They were reg ,not LR on the thermo

 

[MattZuke]

hoosier,
thanks for the electrical engineering aspect. being a plumber, that is pretty greek to me . its ok tho, if i understand:
4.5 attys should work pretty good on the 6v?
dino

Volts = flow
Amps = pressure
resistance = .... clog
Watts = flow (volts) x pressure (amps) [also known as power, amount of work you can do per second]

Volts x volts / ohms = watts where watts should 4-5 for standard voltage, standard resistance, 10 for either high voltage, or low resistance.

6Vx6V/4.5ohms = 8watts

3.5 ohms is hitting the max practical limit.

 

[studio52]

A noob?...Then why in the world would ya want to vape at 6V vs 3.7V? I have about 30 mods, 5Volt Variable volt mods, and I always find vaping my Silver Bullet at 3.7 with a very high MAH battery gives me the most pleasant experience I could ask for. Yes 5V vaping is good and 4.5 is a sweet spot, and the Helix vapes at about 4.2V outa the box with the 26650 huge battery and thats a very sweet vape...so dont think vaping at 6V is the greatest...it is not at all for me, too hot burns most flavored juices to no taste etc....experiment and see if what I am telling you isnt good vape talk..LOL...IMHO

 

[dkonrai]

hey i just wanted to give the thermo tube a try. i agree 6v is a little hot. i am using either a ego/green life 1000mha or the sparkplug at 3.7 with a 510 maelstrom lr atty.
i say a noob bc i have only been vaping for almost four months.
dino

 

[WillyB]

LR attys are not meant to be used on anything higher than 3.7 volt. You should never ever use them on a 6volt device.

So that's like a law?

There are many LR offerings that are quite nice at the ~4.1-4.3V range.


@ dkonrai

You gotta take the various Ohm's Law numbers folks are providing with a grain of salt.

If you have a pair of the popular Tenergy 3V Li-PO4's you aren't at 6V anyway.

Here's a loaded/vaping test done by tony falcon last year firing a Joye 510.

Dumwaldo got almost identical results, ~5.2V, with a DSE 901.

Most of the 6V Tenergy users would find true 6V rather intense.