A bit of a battery query...

[V8Maverick]

I'm a relatively high load vaper - 0.17 ohms, 200 watts, juggernaut coils.
The ijoy batteries that came with the captain pd270 are starting to lose battery life now, so it's time to move on. What would be the best 20700's out there for this kind of daily hammering?
The ijoys used to do all day and then some, but I'll get half a day now, then it's back to 18650 with the supplied adaptor.
Thanks.

 

[Baditude]

Using two 30 amp batteries you're going to get a ceiling limit of about 180 watts.

Seriously, you really vape at 200 watts?

Mooch's battery tests: 20650/20700/21700/21-70 Test Results

 

[V8Maverick]

Yep, I really vape at 200 watts. I just find vaping lower is weak and watery. The coil ramp up is like waiting for a kettle to boil and I'd rather get my hit in 3 to 4 seconds, not 7 or 8

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

You're gonna need a three, maybe a four battery mod to consistently burn that much energy without killing your batteries. Or you'll be right back after another 250-ish charge cycles looking for another pair of 20700's.

Your juice budget must be hefty and if you're using factory drop-in coils, you're probably buying them by the gross.

 

[Baditude]

I agree with Coastal Cowboy. If you get a triple 18650 battery mod you can legitamently get up to 225 watts with three Sony VTC5A 2600mah 25 amp batteries, or 270 watts using three LG HB6 1500mah 30 amp batteries. Expecting just two batteries to reach over 180 watts is misuse/abuse.

In the interests of keeping things simple:

-If you use a good quality 15 amp CDR battery like the Samsung 30Q or Sony VTC6, then you are good up to 45 watts per battery; 90 watts using two; 135 watts for three batteries.

-If you use a good quality 20 amp CDR battery like the LG HG2 or Samsung 25R then you are good for 60 watts per battery. If using a 2-battery regulated mod, your good for 120 watts as you have two batteries. If you are using a 3-battery mod, you're good for 180.

-If you use a single 25 amp CDR battery like the Sony VTC5A, then you are good for 75 watts per battery, 150 watts for two batteries, and 225 watts with three.

-If you use a single 30 amp CDR battery like the LG HB6 you are good up to 90 watts; with a pair of 30 amp CDR batteries you could safely do 180 watts, or 270 watts with three.​

WATTAGE PER SINGLE BATTERY:

20W-45W:
Samsung 18650 30Q, 3000 mah 15/20 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC6 3000mAh 15/20 amp CDR

20W-60W:
LG 18650HG2 3000mah 20 amp CDR
LG 18650HE2 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
Samsung 18650-25R, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
Sanyo UR18650NSX, 2500 mah 20 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC5, 2600 mah 20 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC4, 2100 mah 23 amp CDR
AW 18650 3000 mah 20 amp CDR

30W - 75W:
LG 18650 HD4 2100 mah 25 amp CDR
LG 18650 HD2 2000 mah 25 amp CDR
Sony 18650VTC5A, 2500 mah 25 amp CDR

60W - 90W:
LG18650HB6 1500mah 30 amp CDR
LG18650HB2 1500mAh 30 amp CDR
LG18650HB4 1500mAh 30 amp CDR

 

[IMFire3605]

I am not going to add anything in here, other than look at a 3+ battery mod to handle that wattage demand, or the most prudent, quit using juggernaut coil setups exclusively. I am not a big fan of super exotic coil types, fused claptons, stapled claptons, heaven forbid if you ever see me run a pair juggernaut coils in my RDAs. "Way to much wire to heat up", I get far better clouds, flavor, and most of all battery efficiency off a pair of standard clapton coils. I am not trying to berate or talk down in this statement, but please, for safety sake alone, if I was in your situation, I'd look from the top of my device down to figure out how to improve my battery performance, and that starts at the coils themselves before looking for a higher or equivalent CDR rated battery that would support those fancy, IMO, useless and inefficient coils to begin with, even triple core fused claptons would be better on batteries than a pair of juggernauts.

 

[dom qp]

Yep, I really vape at 200 watts. I just find vaping lower is weak and watery. The coil ramp up is like waiting for a kettle to boil and I'd rather get my hit in 3 to 4 seconds, not 7 or 8

It only feels watery and weak because you're using high mass low resistance coils. If you use low mass low resistance coils it'll heat up quicker and consume less power.

You lose surface area but you get diminishing returns on that. Really bad diminishing returns.

That's why IMO you get a better experience lowering resistance by reducing number of wraps rather than using a thicker wire.

Think of it like a car. A semi with 500hp is going to move a lot slower than a sport car with 500hp. Juggernauts are show pieces. Fused claptons the sport cars.

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

If you want long life AND high wattage, consider the iJoy triple 20700 mod. Then you're getting 30 amp power with 3000 mAh life. Can't remember the model name right now...

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[Mr. Relentless]

I never found Juggernaut coils to be much other than a battery killer with poor ramp up. Might want to try another coil type. You can get equal production with half the power. I've tried them and needed 130 140 watts just to get them started and 160w and up to fire them right. I was not impressed.