A bit of a rant over keeping vaping legal and safe.

[Covert]

I am the wrong person to post that in front of lol. As I myself do have some RDA's that are dual coiled 0.5 ohm wraps. Do I consider it dangerous .... not at all. Why you may ask? Because I have educated myself. I run batteries capable of handling the amp draw and check my coils for shorts BEFORE I even put it on a device..... then fire it far away from my face for fire it for about 5 to 10 seconds .All of this after the initial math was done to make sure everything is within good reason. If you do not know what you are doing or own a multimeter then odds are you should be sticking non rebuildables until you have learned enough to safely do so. Kinda like giving a 12 year old a gun with no instruction and sending him on his merry way.....Probably not a great idea right. But us grownups know everything...... well except that common sense isn't all that common anymore lol.

WOW! When I first heard/read the report, it was stated as being just an ecig!

Well, I guess my post doesn't look as stupid as some may think!

All the more reason for people to reconsider trying to build these ultra high voltage/wattage mods with sub ohm resistance!

Once the limit has been pushed too far, there's no "edit, undo" in life!

 

[Lessifer]

Eh, people just need to be safe, but you can't force someone to pay attention. Every mod/rba I look at online has a section in the description about how it is for "advanced users" and you should know about batteries, building coils, how to spot shorts, etc. but then I come on ECF and see posts from new vapors wondering why they popped a coil in their first build doing a sub ohm atty with a full mech mod.

Some people take the time to learn about what they are doing, and then they want to take the time to figure out how to make it better, those people advance vaping. Some people see something cool and want to recreate it without putting in the effort to learn how to do it right, those people may just end up removing themselves from the gene pool.

 

[Da300Mann]

I am the wrong person to post that in front of lol. As I myself do have some RDA's that are dual coiled 0.5 ohm wraps. Do I consider it dangerous .... not at all. Why you may ask? Because I have educated myself. I run batteries capable of handling the amp draw and check my coils for shorts BEFORE I even put it on a device..... then fire it far away from my face for fire it for about 5 to 10 seconds .All of this after the initial math was done to make sure everything is within good reason. If you do not know what you are doing or own a multimeter then odds are you should be sticking non rebuildables until you have learned enough to safely do so. Kinda like giving a 12 year old a gun with no instruction and sending him on his merry way.....Probably not a great idea right. But us grownups know everything...... well except that common sense isn't all that common anymore lol.

I think with age, I'm 45, we lose touch with common sense! That's why I have a 4x4 GMC jacked on 20's! lol

 

[ScottP]

A lot of people are building, for lack of better terminology, dangerous devices! We are stacking high power batteries, sub-ohming atties, and pushing every limit we have to date. With this practice, it's just a matter of time before someone gets seriously injured, or worse yet, killed by a device meant to save us from the dangers of smoking.

Dude have you seen the XGames? Have you heard of Felix Baumgartner, the man that did a skydive from "space"? Pushing limits is what people do. Yes sometimes they get injured. That does not mean that these things need to be banned or regulated. If no one ever pushed the limits we would still be living in caves and walking everywhere we went. We would have never build a car, much less cars that break the sound barrier. We would have never gone to the moon or to the depths of the oceans. It is human nature to push limits and make things bigger, better, faster, and stronger. Sometimes to our credit and sometimes to our detriment. It is who we are.

 

[SissySpike]

Here is my Still ;-) Im tired of having to sneak and do what I should be able to do in the light of day! I dont have the energy to be an outlaw anymore. I do have the drive to stand up for what is supposed to be mine in the first place

@The Vape Nerd let them try...... The process of extraction is dangerous, and not that easy, but the information of how to do so is public knowledge..... just like everything else if they ban it I will just figure out how to make my own (think moonshine).

 

[Da300Mann]

View attachment 220261 Here is my Still ;-) Im tired of having to sneak and do what I should be able to do in the light of day! I dont have the energy to be an outlaw anymore. I do have the drive to stand up for what is supposed to be mine in the first place

Pass me a pint!

 

[Covert]

This is my point as well and it is great that you used Felix and the XGames as a means to express it ..... Felix did tons of research hell he even had the man that held the record before him help him plan it. Every jump in the Xgames is carefully engineered and thought out so it eliminates some of the risk ....not all, which applies to this situation as well. Knowledge is everything without it you are setting yourself up for failure. What level of failure depends on the risk. As the olsd saying goes "play with fire and you WILL get burned".

Dude have you seen the XGames? Have you heard of Felix Baumgartner, the man that did a skydive from "space"? Pushing limits is what people do. Yes sometimes they get injured. That does not mean that these things need to be banned or regulated. If no one ever pushed the limits we would still be living in caves and walking everywhere we went. We would have never build a car, much less cars that break the sound barrier. We would have never gone to the moon or to the depths of the oceans. It is human nature to push limits and make things bigger, better, faster, and stronger. Sometimes to our credit and sometimes to our detriment. It is who we are.

 

[hottierockstar]

All animals can be dangerous if they're trained to be dangerous. Pit Bulls are only different from Chihuahuas because they're bigger.

I can understand apartment complexes having a weight limit to prevent damage to their property, but as far as laws go...that's one set of laws that I will under no circumstances ever follow. They're unjust and ridiculous. I don't care what the penalties are. I don't care if someone trained their dog wrong and it hurt someone, put the preson in jail for animal cruelty and send the dog to a rescue center. That will not ever affect the kind of dog I choose to keep.

totally off topic and i sort of apologize in advance
AMEN!
daschunds are actually listed as the most aggressive breed on many lists (that i can't find right now! grrr)...they just don't have the bite pressure/media attention.
two legged animals are the real danger.....

 

[SissySpike]

Pass me a pint!

A pint of my shine will make two good strong drinking men very drunk;-) I drank a pint well a friend and I drank a quart I dont remember the last few drinks and I was hung over for two days;-)

 

[Covert]

Your profile pic is awesome! Makes me miss my big boy. He used to do the same thing. I used to be a live in pet sitter for two Pits Bulls the biggest babies too. Not a mean bone in either's body. Dogs being aggressive has alot to do with their owners as far as I see it.

totally off topic and i sort of apologize in advance
AMEN!
daschunds are actually listed as the most aggressive breed on many lists (that i can't find right now! grrr)...they just don't have the bite pressure/media attention.
two legged animals are the real danger.....

 

[Da300Mann]

A pint of my shine will make two good strong drinking men very drunk;-) I drank a pint well a friend and I drank a quart I dont remember the last few drinks and I was hung over for two days;-)

Sip some now, save some for later!

 

[SissySpike]

I am the wrong person to post that in front of lol. As I myself do have some RDA's that are dual coiled 0.5 ohm wraps. Do I consider it dangerous .... not at all. Why you may ask? Because I have educated myself. I run batteries capable of handling the amp draw and check my coils for shorts BEFORE I even put it on a device..... then fire it far away from my face for fire it for about 5 to 10 seconds .All of this after the initial math was done to make sure everything is within good reason. If you do not know what you are doing or own a multimeter then odds are you should be sticking non rebuildables until you have learned enough to safely do so. Kinda like giving a 12 year old a gun with no instruction and sending him on his merry way.....Probably not a great idea right. But us grownups know everything...... well except that common sense isn't all that common anymore lol.

Not me I like living on the edge I do a quad coil with twisted 28 gauge I stack 18350 16340 18350 combo and I take my first drag with my head in a bucket on a new set up;-) I suppose there are some dummy's out there who do not arm them selves with a little knowledge. They are everywhere I can spend hours watching youtube they are good for a laugh anyway;-) Some people exist to teach us what not to do so even the dummy's have a propose.

 

[Covert]

Yep evolution at it's finest lol Nice shine rig I had to quit drinking because everyone, but me hated me drinking lol.....

Not me I like living on the edge I do a quad coil with twisted 28 gauge I stack 18350 16340 18350 combo and I take my first drag with my head in a bucket on a new set up;-) I suppose there are some dummy's out there who do not arm them selves with a little knowledge. They are everywhere I can spend hours watching youtube they are good for a laugh anyway;-) Some people exist to teach us what not to do so even the dummy's have a propose.

 

[Sm0kyBlue]

again.. "ya'll" it comes down to what you are voting for..

Pay attention to the polls and to what your representative wants and who is paying him or her to want it..

No matter if it is ecigs or if you have the right to do what ever when ever.. If you do not talk about it, if you look the other way..
one day.. we won't have anything, and the government will lay claim as to how one will sleep with whom.

 

[SissySpike]

Yep evolution at it's finest lol Nice shine rig I had to quit drinking because everyone, but me hated me drinking lol.....

Yea Me to havent drank for 8 years now but I still like to make some shine for Xmass presents from time to time.

again.. "ya'll" it comes down to what you are voting for..

Pay attention to the polls and to what your representative wants and who is paying him or her to want it..

No matter if it is ecigs or if you have the right to do what ever when ever.. If you do not talk about it, if you look the other way..
one day.. we won't have anything, and the government will lay claim as to how one will sleep with whom.

I dont vote and I am proud to say so! Im tired of choosing the lesser of two evils. We should not have to pick who is going to kill us the least or slowest. I have no respect or faith in ether party as they exist today.

 

[EddardinWinter]

The time may come soon, where our right to vape is challenged. At that time, it will be important to explode into action. Letters to editors, demonstrations, civil disobedience, whatever it takes. I know people that tell me I am living in a dream world, and that regulation is inevitable. There is nothing that can be done to stop it. It is the way of things.

Really? Read about what Gandhi accomplished. He did so as a man with no rights as a virtual serf under the thumb of the British Empire, who was determined not to let go of India. He first gained rights for Indians, then independence (although at a heavy cost). We are Americans, with a birthright of freedom. Will we use it, or shrug and mumble while it slips away?

They cannot take our vaping away unless we let them do it. Believe that, and we have already won.

 

[SissySpike]

The time may come soon, where our right to vape is challenged. At that time, it will be important to explode into action. Letters to editors, demonstrations, civil disobedience, whatever it takes. I know people that tell me I am living in a dream world, and that regulation is inevitable. There is nothing that can be done to stop it. It is the way of things.

Really? Read about what Gandhi accomplished. He did so as a man with no rights as a virtual serf under the thumb of the British Empire, who was determined not to let go of India. He first gained rights for Indians, then independence (although at a heavy cost). We are Americans, with a birthright of freedom. Will we use it, or shrug and mumble while it slips away?

They cannot take our vaping away unless we let them do it. Believe that, and we have already won.

I hope we can hold off for a couple of more years. as our numbers keep doubling. One of these days we will be to big to fail;-)

 

[Covert]

I for one would be aboard the next plane to where ever in the country I need to be to have a vape sit in.

The time may come soon, where our right to vape is challenged. At that time, it will be important to explode into action. Letters to editors, demonstrations, civil disobedience, whatever it takes. I know people that tell me I am living in a dream world, and that regulation is inevitable. There is nothing that can be done to stop it. It is the way of things.

Really? Read about what Gandhi accomplished. He did so as a man with no rights as a virtual serf under the thumb of the British Empire, who was determined not to let go of India. He first gained rights for Indians, then independence (although at a heavy cost). We are Americans, with a birthright of freedom. Will we use it, or shrug and mumble while it slips away?

They cannot take our vaping away unless we let them do it. Believe that, and we have already won.

 

[EddardinWinter]

I have been mocked for this photo, but I truly believe in it. Believing in our strength determines how strong we are. There are brave, determined, principled people manning the front lines for us right now. When the time comes, look to CASAA to be the tip of the spear, and support them where you can do the most good.

Look to yourself, for your own inspiration. Then, we must act.

This picture is truly how I view my right to vape. Why should I, a lion, fear some feeble bureaucrat? They should fear us, and when they challenge us, it will be up to us to put the fear into them. Let's make them think twice before they would ever cross us again. If this fight is to be made, let's make it in a way that it will settle the matter decisively!

 

[EddardinWinter]

I hope we can hold off for a couple of more years. as our numbers keep doubling. One of these days we will be to big to fail;-)

Let us instead be too bold to fail. We can be that right now.