A bit of a rant over keeping vaping legal and safe.

[AngelsBreath]

I think I'm in love with that there lion lmao lmao!!! Well said EddardinWinter, well said.


***just joking about the love thing lmao, don't want anyone to get the wrong idea! hehehe

 

[Covert]

I have a 2 beer a week limit usually reserved for going out to eat, but that clear or brown stuff brings Dr Jeckyl out in full force so I can't touch the stuff lol. As for voting i'm with you on that im 32 years old, and Ihave never voted. Always seemed like an effort in futility as lined pockets decide who does what not voting,anyone that thinks otherwise should just do a very minimal amount of research lol.

Yea Me to havent drank for 8 years now but I still like to make some shine for Xmass presents from time to time.



I dont vote and I am proud to say so! Im tired of choosing the lesser of two evils. We should not have to pick who is going to kill us the least or slowest. I have no respect or faith in ether party as they exist today.

 

[TigerLadyTX]

I was nodding at some of your points, dear OP, until you maligned pit bulls. Then you just set me off.

Doja, my Staffordshire Bull Terrier is TDI a certified therapy dog who holds MULTIPLE obedience titles. She works with cancer kiddies at Children's Medical in Dallas. She has passed the CGC as well as the ATTS. Sadly, she herself is now dying of Hemangiosarcoma.

Gracie, my American Staffordshire Terrier holds multiple OB titles, is TDI a certified therapy dog working with the elderly and the disabled in many nursing homes/rehab centers here in the Metroplex and also holds her CGC and ATTS.

Then there is Domino, she is my American Pit Bull Terrier. She, too, holds her ATTS, CGC, and multiple OB titles. She is a certified SAR dog. Her most recent SAR mission was in Joplin, MO in May of 2011. Her skills helped recover 12 bodies from the rubble left by the storm. Currently she is being retrained for therapy duty because she tore both of her ACLs clambering thru the rubble left by that storm.

I am SO sick and tired of people maligning all 'pit bulls' because they fit a certain 'type'. *Snarl*

~Tiger

 

[EddardinWinter]

Doja, my Staffordshire Bull Terrier is TDI a certified therapy dog who holds MULTIPLE obedience titles. She works with cancer kiddies at Children's Medical in Dallas. She has passed the CGC as well as the ATTS. Sadly, she herself is now dying of Hemangiosarcoma.

Gracie, my American Staffordshire Terrier holds multiple OB titles, is TDI a certified therapy dog working with the elderly and the disabled in many nursing homes/rehab centers here in the Metroplex and also holds her CGC and ATTS. .....

I am SO sick and tired of people maligning all 'pit bulls' because they fit a certain 'type'. *Snarl*

~Tiger

I cannot imagine why they are so well behaved....

 

[SissySpike]

I for one would be aboard the next plane to where ever in the country I need to be to have a vape sit in.

I have a place in the Philippines its looking more and more attractive. If the Immigration bill goes in to affect as its proposed Im working twards moving there before it all comes crashing down!

Let us instead be too bold to fail. We can be that right now.

This is just a very small symptom of our troubles. But I try to fight on lots of different fronts. If we can shrink the Government vaping becomes a non issue.

My Pit Bull O wait hes a chiwawa but he thinks hes a Pit;-)

 

[hottierockstar]

I was nodding at some of your points, dear OP, until you maligned pit bulls. Then you just set me off.

Doja, my Staffordshire Bull Terrier is TDI a certified therapy dog who holds MULTIPLE obedience titles. She works with cancer kiddies at Children's Medical in Dallas. She has passed the CGC as well as the ATTS. Sadly, she herself is now dying of Hemangiosarcoma.

Gracie, my American Staffordshire Terrier holds multiple OB titles, is TDI a certified therapy dog working with the elderly and the disabled in many nursing homes/rehab centers here in the Metroplex and also holds her CGC and ATTS.

Then there is Domino, she is my American Pit Bull Terrier. She, too, holds her ATTS, CGC, and multiple OB titles. She is a certified SAR dog. Her most recent SAR mission was in Joplin, MO in May of 2011. Her skills helped recover 12 bodies from the rubble left by the storm. Currently she is being retrained for therapy duty because she tore both of her ACLs clambering thru the rubble left by that storm.

I am SO sick and tired of people maligning all 'pit bulls' because they fit a certain 'type'. *Snarl*

~Tiger

belly rubs and kisses to all of your lovelies and to you (just hugs for you tho ) for giving them the opportunity to help others and at least blow the stereotype out of the water for a few. (i can just picture wiggle butts and sloppy kisses with their friends in need)

sending healing pain-free vibes to Doja
smoochies for gracie just cuz
heart healing for Domino for having to find bodies (i know it hurts their hearts to find us that way)

for those reading
CGC - Canine Good Citizen
TDI - Therapy Dogs International
SAR - Search And Rescue
ATTS - American Tempermant Test Society
OB - obedience

 

[Sm0kyBlue]

Yea Me to havent drank for 8 years now but I still like to make some shine for Xmass presents from time to time.



I dont vote and I am proud to say so! Im tired of choosing the lesser of two evils. We should not have to pick who is going to kill us the least or slowest. I have no respect or faith in ether party as they exist today.

wow.. so you don't care who is Sheriff of your town? Who sits on the city council or who makes the "rules" where you live??

I guess hot air abounds.. because if someone says no vaping within 25 yards of a city building.. the one that doesn't vote, has no right to be even crying over not voicing his or her opinion.

exits thread.. sorry.. I like thinking for myself, voting and believing that even locally, we can and will change things in life. There is a way.. unless we vote or revolt.. nothing will change.

 

[Butters78]

I'm having the deja vu. Where have I heard this already?

Oh that's right..

 

[SissySpike]

wow.. so you don't care who is Sheriff of your town? Who sits on the city council or who makes the "rules" where you live??

I guess hot air abounds.. because if someone says no vaping within 25 yards of a city building.. the one that doesn't vote, has no right to be even crying over not voicing his or her opinion.

exits thread.. sorry.. I like thinking for myself, voting and believing that even locally, we can and will change things in life. There is a way.. unless we vote or revolt.. nothing will change.

I dont vote for local government at this time because Im a gypsy I travel for work. I have not been home for more than a week at a time for 8 years. at best I get home twice a year so I do not know the people running so I cannot form an opinion of them.
I do not vote for Federal government because I dont want them to exist in the manner they are now operating. Voting for liars, ,thieves, and crooks is doing us no good what so ever.
I am Part of groups that are trying to bring about legislation to limit corporate influence in Washington and another thats doing its best to expose what the current misleaders are doing to us.

 

[ScottP]

I am Part of groups that are trying to bring about legislation to limit corporate influence in Washington and another thats doing its best to expose what the current misleaders are doing to us.

Where do I sign up?

 

[quatro]

I like this comparison, because I think they're both absolute horse . The pit bull thing *really* bugs me.

All animals can be dangerous if they're trained to be dangerous. Pit Bulls are only different from Chihuahuas because they're bigger.

Wrong, genetics and training are 2 totally different things.

 

[Hippieangst]

As we all know, vaping is under fire, by both federal and state, and being looked at very closely for it's safety and whether or not it should be regulated. The government has to put their nose in everything we do and deem it "ok" for us to do or not. Not to mention tax the crap out of it, if they think they should.

For some of us, vaping has become a hobby, and a love of collecting or building devices. For others, like myself, it's to keep from going back to cigarettes and other dangerous forms of tobacco use.

I'm a 25+ year smoker, who found vaping, and haven't looked back for almost three years now. I love the freedom of vaping in a lot of the places I frequent (work, bars, restaurants... etc.), but I'm afraid this hobby is getting out of control, and our freedom to vape could be in jeopardy if we continue at this pace.

A lot of people are building, for lack of better terminology, dangerous devices! We are stacking high power batteries, sub-ohming atties, and pushing every limit we have to date. With this practice, it's just a matter of time before someone gets seriously injured, or worse yet, killed by a device meant to save us from the dangers of smoking. We need to rethink our vaping and what it really was designed to do.

We know how pitbulls are illegal in a lot of places, because of their known aggressiveness... and they have killed. Also "assault rifles" are under MUCH debate because of crazed people who us them in the wrong manner. I'm a gun guy, who owns many firearms, and have never even thought of using them to harm anyone, but since a few have, ALL of our rights to own these firearms could be taken with just a few votes. I could go on with many other examples of how or freedoms are stripped because of a few bad seeds.

This same problem can fall on us vapers if people start blowing up a simple mod and injuring themselves or people around them. I know you have the right to do what you please with your device and atties, but just because we can, should we?

In short, we need to keep this freedom of vaping available to us. Our right to vape, right now, is already shaky and under the watchful eyes. We have the responsibility, as vapers, to prove to the world that it IS safer than smoking and that it should be allowed in public venues. WE CAN keep vaping legal, but not if we make it dangerous or lethal to ourselves and others.

Sorry, this wasn't meant to upset anyone, but to keep us thinking about how easy our freedoms can be stripped by the mistakes of just a few.

So true....we have to be safe and smart about our new hobby. We have to do our research. Vendors out there absolutely have to have safe lab procedures. Equally important is that we have to be respectful to the hobby and other people.

 

[Vidi]

<----- wonders how long it will be before this thread gets moved to the Outside

 

[Wow1420]

I am the wrong person to post that in front of lol. As I myself do have some RDA's that are dual coiled 0.5 ohm wraps. Do I consider it dangerous .... not at all. Why you may ask? Because I have educated myself. I run batteries capable of handling the amp draw and check my coils for shorts BEFORE I even put it on a device..... then fire it far away from my face for fire it for about 5 to 10 seconds .All of this after the initial math was done to make sure everything is within good reason. If you do not know what you are doing or own a multimeter then odds are you should be sticking non rebuildables until you have learned enough to safely do so. Kinda like giving a 12 year old a gun with no instruction and sending him on his merry way.....Probably not a great idea right. But us grownups know everything...... well except that common sense isn't all that common anymore lol.

This!

There's always so many posts praising the virtues of pushing the limits. I'd really like to see more posts include advice on how to do so with safety in mind. People shouldn't be stacking high amp batteries without understanding how those batteries need to be charged and monitored for safety. No one should be rebuilding coils without also knowing how to check them for shorts. Use fuses with mechanical mods. Use safer chemistry batteries.

Have fun pushing the limits folks, but please give a nod to safety too.

 

[tnt56]

I admit that I didn't read all the post in this thread. Sorry. (NOT). Last time I checked America was a "Free country". Our fellow men and women go into harms way each and everyday to give us this freedom. The last thing I want is some "Fat Cat" that makes mega bucks to sit on their buns and tell me what I can and can't do. (Not really how I wanted to it but at least I won't get kicked off the forum).

 

[PDADoc]

I can't help but wonder whether this thread has drifted into territory other than was originally intended by the OP.

Just saying . . .

 

[SissySpike]

I admit that I didn't read all the post in this thread. Sorry. (NOT). Last time I checked America was a "Free country". Our fellow men and women go into harms way each and everyday to give us this freedom. The last thing I want is some "Fat Cat" that makes mega bucks to sit on their buns and tell me what I can and can't do. (Not really how I wanted to it but at least I won't get kicked off the forum).

You mean use to be free. Welcome to the new Nanny semi police state governed buy Tyrants

I can't help but wonder whether this thread has drifted into territory other than was originally intended by the OP.

Just saying . . .

Welcome to ECF ;-) Threads take on a life of their own and very seldom resemble what started by the time we get to page 8 It cant really each thread would be dead after 1 or two pages of posts if it did not evolve.

 

[Da300Mann]

I guess to point I was trying to make is this:

This Provari just isn't doing it for me anymore, I think I'll build my own!

Lets see what I have laying around... I have these four 1,000,000mAh 26650 batteries I got off eBay for 9.95, with free shipping. I have this lead pipe I'll never use and I have the end caps that fit. I need a good size tank... this Redbull can should work great. Here's some speaker wire and solder, may need some duct tape and silicone. Wick, what to use for a wick? I'll never wear those sneakers again, so these shoe strings should work! Wait, are these going to be enough? I better get both sets. Now, to build an atty. what to use, what to use? AH HA! Bailing wire!! These wood screws will work for the post. A button... I don't use this Xbox controller, and if these triggers can handle a 50 cal, surely it can fire up this mod.

Lets get this mod together! Batteries are a little tight, but I should be able to hammer them in, dang plastic coating. Before I put this bottom cap on, I need a good spring... Just in case I need room to add a kick. 510 fitting, how could I forget the fitting? I'll just crack open this old ego and use this one. How much solder is too much? That should be good. Now, use this old carto for the Redbull can... Gonna need that syilcone to keep it from leaking! Add a couple wood screws for the post and this spaker wire should work for completing the connection. If 4 coils woks for most, 6 should be better. Lets wrap this bailing wire around these fine wicks and the tank is completed! I'll duct tape this trigger to the side and a little more solder... And this puppy is looking good! Poke a hole in the top and add my favorite drip tip, and we're about ready to fill it and fire it up!

Looks like everything is in place, all connections are in place and look solid. Tank is filled, so I'll give it a good shake to get the wicks soaked.

Ok, I'm ready to vape! Just a little squeeze of the trigger and.... *meets God*

 

[SissySpike]

I guess to point I was trying to make is this:

This Provari just isn't doing it for me anymore, I think I'll build my own!

Lets see what I have laying around... I have these four 1,000,000mAh 26650 batteries I got off eBay for 9.95, with free shipping. I have this lead pipe I'll never use and I have the end caps that fit. I need a good size tank... this Redbull can should work great. Here's some speaker wire and solder, may need some duct tape and silicone. Wick, what to use for a wick? I'll never wear those sneakers again, so these shoe strings should work! Wait, are these going to be enough? I better get both sets. Now, to build an atty. what to use, what to use? AH HA! Bailing wire!! These wood screws will work for the post. A button... I don't use this Xbox controller, and if these triggers can handle a 50 cal, surely it can fire up this mod.

Lets get this mod together! Batteries are a little tight, but I should be able to hammer them in, dang plastic coating. Before I put this bottom cap on, I need a good spring... Just in case I need room to add a kick. 510 fitting, how could I forget the fitting? I'll just crack open this old ego and use this one. How much solder is too much? That should be good. Now, use this old carto for the Redbull can... Gonna need that syilcone to keep it from leaking! Add a couple wood screws for the post and this spaker wire should work for completing the connection. If 4 coils woks for most, 6 should be better. Lets wrap this bailing wire around these fine wicks and the tank is completed! I'll duct tape this trigger to the side and a little more solder... And this puppy is looking good! Poke a hole in the top and add my favorite drip tip, and we're about ready to fill it and fire it up!

Looks like everything is in place, all connections are in place and look solid. Tank is filled, so I'll give it a good shave to get the wicks soaked.

Ok, I'm ready to vape! Just a little squeeze of the trigger and.... *meets God*

The good thing is there is no evidence left to regulate or Al-Qaeda will get the blame ;-) There is no laws against stupidity or wed all be in jail at some point or another.
You are not going to stop people from experimenting. Its much better to have open dialog and forums so people can learn to do it as safe as possible.
Im a Iron worker the only accident Ive had in 8 years of pushing work is a nail puncture. I take some serious risks each and everyday. To you what I do sometimes might seem insane to me its just another day at the office.
To me we need to focus on the people looking for any excuse to regulate, Tax, control for profit instead of each other. We are all we have no need for division amongst our selves.

 

[PDADoc]

You mean use to be free. Welcome to the new Nanny semi police state governed buy Tyrants


Welcome to ECF ;-) Threads take on a life of their own and very seldom resemble what started by the time we get to page 8 It cant really each thread would be dead after 1 or two pages of posts if it did not evolve.

LOL! Fair enough.