A deluge of ANTZ drivel is about to hit. Bring your dumbrella

[DrMA]

American Thoracic Society (ATS) will unveil an impressive wall of anti-vaping pseudoscience and science denial as part of their annual meeting. As you know, ATS is a useful idiots' satellite orbiting the monstrous Pharma lobbying group & fake charity ALA, who has consistently lied about ecig safety & effectiveness as well as fabricated anti-vaping propaganda posing as "expert" opinion or "studies".


http://www.atsjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1164/ajrccm-conference.2015.191.1_MeetingAbstracts.A4106

http://www.atsjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1164/ajrccm-conference.2015.191.1_MeetingAbstracts.A3715

 

[CarolT]

Isn't that just so cutesy-pukesy how their session headings are from pop music titles.
http://www.atsjournals.org/doi/book/10.1164/ajrccm-conference.2015

 

[skoony]

i seen this on Yahoo's front page.
some site called menicalexpress is touting this rubbish.
vaping suppresses the cough reflex, dah!
so does rock candy.

mike

 

[pennysmalls]

I'm not even gonna look.

 

[drksideken]

i seen this on Yahoo's front page.
some site called menicalexpress is touting this rubbish.
vaping suppresses the cough reflex, dah!
so does rock candy.

mike

That's funny, I've had a bit of a cold this past weekend and I've been coughing up a storm.

 

[Kent C]

vaping suppresses the cough reflex, dah!

They should try lung inhaling

 

[guambred]

I was wondering today as I counted 5 generally unfavorable articles in my yahoo feed today, the cough reflex one, two citing the same source on the uncertainty of vaping in long term ability to quit cigs, and one on potential hazards ov mechanical and chemical effects of e cigs.......I won't post links as they are a pain to break and the articles are fairly easy to find. I was surprised that so many negative articles popped up today though.

 

[AndriaD]

I'm not even gonna look.

Me either; why give total rubbish another click?

Andria

 

[Moonbogg]

Upon realizing that vaping doesn't make people cough like smoking does, they had to turn that into a negative somehow and claim that it prevents healthy coughing. Nice. That's creative. I like that.

 

[Kent C]

Upon realizing that vaping doesn't make people cough like smoking does, they had to turn that into a negative somehow and claim that it prevents healthy coughing. Nice. That's creative. I like that.

Eggsactly!

 

[choochoogranny]

Well, any article that I read that is "fiction", I always try to leave them with my two cents worth. I just can't let it stand. Always give them the CASAA and ECF addresses to get correct information. That way, hopefully, anyone not familiar with vaping has other places to find info. Rebutting misinformation is the best I can do right now.

 

[nicnik]

Isn't that just so cutesy-pukesy how their session headings are from pop music titles.
http://www.atsjournals.org/doi/book/10.1164/ajrccm-conference.2015

Lots and lots of Beatle songs, plus other fun and games dealing with serious, fatal diseases. Examples from the list of chapters on the page you linked to:

C64. HAVING A BLAST WITH FIBROBLASTS
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D97. WELCOME BACK: ALVEOLAR MACROPHAGES IN PULMONARY FIBROSIS
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B39. DO YOU WANT TO KNOW A SECRET? CASE REPORTS IN PLEURAL DISEASE
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Pretty sick, don't you think?

Also, the two tobacco related chapters linked to on that page lead to abstracts, including some of the junk ones that have been discussed here, and these ones, that I sure hope they're willing to publicize as much as the phony science (the first one is already being discussed here on another thread):

May 19
C54. COPD EPIDEMIOLOGY: TOBACCO
Electronic Cigarettes Are Less Toxic, When Compared To Traditional Cigarette Exposure In An Acute Animal Model And On Human Alveolar Cells
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And this one:

May 20
D15. TOBACCO CESSATION: IDENTIFYING EFFECTIVE STRATEGIES AND EMERGING NEEDS
The Risk Of Cardiovascular And Neuropsychiatric Adverse Events Following Varenicline Use For Tobacco Cessation In Ontario, Canada: A Self-Controlled Study
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They're probably having a wonderful time at their anual party/conference, and just maybe will get some actual work done on their mission of dirtying science.

I don't know how to remedy that user cookie error thing, but the links work fine.

 

[nicnik]

I was wondering today as I counted 5 generally unfavorable articles in my yahoo feed today, the cough reflex one, two citing the same source on the uncertainty of vaping in long term ability to quit cigs, and one on potential hazards ov mechanical and chemical effects of e cigs.......I won't post links as they are a pain to break and the articles are fairly easy to find. I was surprised that so many negative articles popped up today though.

It sure seems like there's an intesified, organized ANTZ effort ahead of the expected FDA deeming. Not too surprizing, huh?

 

[caramel]

I'm not even gonna look.

There's one about different flavours that's worth a look. From an "abundant caution" perspective one may want to skip the top three there.

 

[skoony]

It sure seems like there's an intesified, organized ANTZ effort ahead of the expected FDA deeming. Not too surprizing, huh?

you will also notice they are starting to switch from the unknown whats in second hand
vapor and the addictive nicotine theme to just a plain old tobacco product.
e-juice is deemed a tobacco product therefore its just a tobacco product.
like cigarettes,hence no need to make any claims true or false.
the masses know tobacco is bad for you,right?

mike

 

[sonicbomb]

Social engineering through media propaganda is a mature science. A blatant lie here, and subtle manipulation of peoples fears there..
The governments agenda is money and power, peoples health is so far down on the care-o-meter the needle barely twitches.