A question for people who use round wire builds exclusively

[DaveP]

28ga SS or Kanthal is easy to wrap, works good, tastes good, and lasts a long time.

I used to wonder why people used to tear down a perfectly good SS396 Chevelle, replace the cam and pistons, and install racing parts and chrome all over the place. I guess they just wanted to. The stock engine would run fine. All you needed was the right exhaust system, tires, and shiny wheels to make your friends envious!

 

[sonicbomb]

The only atty I use claptons exclusively in is a single in my Serpent Mini. In regulated devices the performance increase is in my opinion negligible over a round wire build. In a single battery mech there just isn't enough chutzpah to light them up.
I quite enjoy making them, but I have a box full of assorted claptons that I've pulled after a short period and replaced with round wire.

 

[Bad Ninja]

..... to make your friends envious!

We have a winner!

 

[VapNMirrors]

A simple single round coil of a single material has the least coil mass, fastest ramp up/down, a uniform TCR, will meter most accurately and generally produce the best, most accurate, and repeatable TC (assuming something other than kanthal). Also least effort. *win* *profit*

 

[Foggyroomz]

I've noticed a lot of people use only round wire builds as opposed to a clapton or fused clapton, just curious as to why the people who do, prefer it.

People who use mechanical tube mods use round wire the most because of less mass, it ramps faster and uses less energy in doing so, which is very important when competing in cloud competition or trick competition you need efficiency. People who use regulated devices especially multiple battery units can increase the power applied so heavier mass builds like fused claptons and exotic builds don't pose as much of a problem for them and they tend to produce better flavor. As for what's easier to clean when doing a rewick that is all subjective, my fused claptons clean just as easily as my single wire builds. I dry burn them get them glowing and then rinse them while still red hot and never had a problem. I find my claptons outlive my single cores as they are more stable. But I hope this helps.

 

[Zakillah]

I think it's all sounds good in theory but imo it probably barely detectable in vapor and flavor. If you had , let's say a triple parallel 32g at let's say 1 ohm vs a single 28g coil at 1 ohm, vs a 26g at 1 ohm , all on identical tanks with the same juice and didn't know which ones were which , I would say 99 percent of vapors couldn't tell the difference after taking one or two vapes from each. I agree that in the first example there is more wick coverage, I just think the differences are too minute to really tell. At least I can't tell, I have multiples of the same rta's and in some I have 26g, in others I have 28g, and at one time had claptons in an other, yes some had different resistances but I always ran them at basically the same wattages and they all tasted and vaped the same

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It is definitely detectable in ramp up and what kind of power you need.
For direct comparison I once built my two old Aromamizer RTAs. One with 0,4mm (~26G), the other with 0,25mm (~30G) wire of the same material. I used the same diameters and coil lengths.
At 40W the 26G build needed like 3 puffs of ~3s to finally get half decent vapor out of it. The 30G build was good from the start.

Does it make a giant difference? Honestly, no. Is it noticeable? Yes.

 

[vapdivrr]

It is definitely detectable in ramp up and what kind of power you need.
For direct comparison I once built my two old Aromamizer RTAs. One with 0,4mm (~26G), the other with 0,25mm (~30G) wire of the same material. I used the same diameters and coil lengths.
At 40W the 26G build needed like 3 puffs of ~3s to finally get half decent vapor out of it. The 30G build was good from the start.

Does it make a giant difference? Honestly, no. Is it noticeable? Yes.

Agreed about the ramp up time but those examples seem weird. At 40 watts a 26g should heat pretty fast and 30 should maybe be to thin unless you were doing dual coils? I use alot of 26g single coils and even at 23 watts , it heats pretty darn fast. It's been a long time since using 30g, but when I did it was like 15 watts. With dual coils though, I can definitely see what your saying

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[vapdivrr]

The only atty I use claptons exclusively in is a single in my Serpent Mini. In regulated devices the performance increase is in my opinion negligible over a round wire build. In a single battery mech there just isn't enough chutzpah to light them up.
I quite enjoy making them, but I have a box full of assorted claptons that I've pulled after a short period and replaced with round wire.

Amazing how far we have come in such a short time, it doesn't seem that long ago that a single battery mech produced more power then any regulated device

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[Bad Ninja]

Amazing how far we have come in such a short time, it doesn't seem that long ago that a single battery mech produced more power then any regulated device

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There was no need for 200watt devices until exotic coils came to the scene.

A few vapers began posting pics of coils wrapped like mini works of art, and everyone wanted one.
However they have so much metal, they require much more power to function.
Thus a market for high powered regulated devices was born.

 

[Zakillah]

Yeah, the Aromamizer is dual coil.
The thickest wire I ever use anymore is 0,3mm. Thats my lazy builds. Most of the time I use 0,25mm.
I have run single coil 0,20mm wire builds on 40W+ (Avocado 22mm) and 0,25mm duals at 80W. (Boreas, Aromamizer Supreme, Limitless+)
It works. You just need to parallel/triple/quadruple the wires and do lots of wraps. A single wire 8 wrap obviously will go up in flames.

 

[Eskie]

There was no need for 200watt devices until exotic coils came to the scene.

A few vapers began posting pics of coils wrapped like mini works of art, and everyone wanted one.
However they have so much metal, they require much more power to function.
Thus a market for high powered regulated devices was born.

And just because they look good (and some of them really flat out are works of art) does not mean they'll vape good. But they are pretty to look at.

 

[Zakillah]

People are swearing that (at least some of) those coils taste so much better.
Idk, I never tried.

 

[jambi]

I still use 24 gauge in my older tanks, like my subtanks, that lack the clearance for Claptons, and a couple of top post drippers. Once I've phased them out it'll be pure Clapton.

 

[sofarsogood]

I've never attempted more than one coil. I don't build below 1.0 ohm and nomrally closer to 1.4 ohm. I needed 30 max watts for 28 guage stainless in TC mode. A week ago I changed to 30 guage stainless and now 15 watts with a touch of preheat is getting it done with the advantage of noticably less power consumed. With a single 30 guage coil a single 18650 gets me through a work day with ease. Something I didn't expect is the 30 guage is easier to build with on my particular rda than the 28 guage.

 

[Inka]

I just wanted to stop smoking, and this is not a hobby for me. I have other things to do, so the least amount of time I can devote to it, the better.

Although I do change wicks every week or twice a week sometimes, the coil I'm using is eight months old now . I know I'll have to do something about that in the near future.

Hey, if the Kanthal in toasters and hair dryers last as long as they do, why would I rebuild a coil that's still working, just for the heck of it?

I just rebuilt a coil. The one before I used for 8 months too.

 

[MMW]

I use 26g, ss316l, 2 and 3 wire parallels 90% of the time these days. They work well on my single and parallel mechs.