AAHP petiton

[joshuawinkk]

I read lines up here about the new petition and a part of the petition was "The first is for e-cigs to be reclassified as tobacco products"

That would mean all taxes applied to tobacco apply to e-cigs. So question is the purpose to avoid banning e-cigs?? As fas I can see for the government its all about the bucks.

 

[CaptJay]

If they classisfy it as a drug delivery device it would be available by preseciption. Prescription drugs can only be bought off places like..pharmacys, and made by..big drug corps! How tasty do you think your ejuice will be then? Probably be like a liquid patch and your PV will disappear and turn into an inhalator - you know the thing no-one liked because it didn't work.
Banning them or taxing them - I'd have to say Id take the taxes. Let's face it - State and Govt don't want smokers off cigs cos they lose cash - that seems to be the ugly truth. They'd rather you died from smoking (proven unsafe but taxable at a high rate) than lived through using a PV (proven safER but not yet fully investigated for amount of harm and NOT taxable like a cig is).
The message apparently is: please die, but do it slowly so we can make money off you. Oh and no you can't smoke anywhere even though we dont want you to give up.
If your state is doing this you should ask yourself who you're going to vote for next election. And tell them.

 

[dayswithout]

I prefer higher price with taxes, just to keep those life savers available everywhere.

 

[Kuya Dave]

yes the government is about the bucks.
I bet you they make over 1 billion a day in taxes on cigarettes.

all taxes you pay goto either state or federal
state is limited but federal gets the bucks...
And sinks us every breath.

We have no control on what will happen. as its there choice. They still get money from taxes on pv's and juice depending where you order from but they do not realize it.
cause it is not replacing the other billion a day they are losing.

Something like that its my personal opinion.

 

[December Moon]

I would by far prefer taxes to any kind of banning.

What is so sad, is this shows the real weaknesses of our corporate world. Big tobacco companies like the ones we all know and love very well could create and sell their own e cigs, which would be sold right beside the reg cigs, and rake in just as many taxes.

But instead, they prefer to quiver with fear and ban anything and everything that shows thought of the future.

Real businesses would know how to change as society changes to keep itself in business. Instead they ban everything that is a possible threat.

Anyways, yes, I think at this point I think "they" are trying to find ways to make money off them without banning them and forcing everyone back to real cigs.

 

[Kent C]

I would by far prefer taxes to any kind of banning.

What is so sad, is this shows the real weaknesses of our corporate world. Big tobacco companies like the ones we all know and love very well could create and sell their own e cigs, which would be sold right beside the reg cigs, and rake in just as many taxes.

But instead, they prefer to quiver with fear and ban anything and everything that shows thought of the future.

Real businesses would know how to change as society changes to keep itself in business. Instead they ban everything that is a possible threat.

Anyways, yes, I think at this point I think "they" are trying to find ways to make money off them without banning them and forcing everyone back to real cigs.

Huh? Businesses can't ban anything or tax anyone. Get gov't out of the way and businesses have to compete with other businesses in the same product or alternative products. Business can't make you by a Chevy, but gov't can.

 

[ThePuck]

Actually a being a tobacco device does not mean high taxes. Being classified as a cigarette would mean higher taxes. Only cigarettes have high taxes. Other tobacco products like small cigars do not.

Example... I used to smoke cigarettes until the taxes went sky high on them. I was going to quit but then I found these little cigars, 20 to a pack that looked basically like ciagarettes, about the same size but were made with cigar tobacco. They were only $.99 cents a pack. I switched to them. Cigarettes were over $6.00 dollars a pack. If all tobacco products were taxed the same, these little cigars would be just as expensive. Cigarettes have way over $2.00 tax on them so these little cigars are not being taxed like cigarettes are. It's the cigarettes that are getting taxed to death, not all tobacco products.

The little cigars are proof. So I believe our e-cigs would fall under the little cigar category (until the politicians got a hold of them).

 

[Kuya Dave]

agree's puck.
but fact is being called a e-cigarette they would probably try to tax it the same.
without them stating what tax they would put I will not support it either way.

We all could get a prescription easily.
with a fee.
then what would the price be if we had to do that.

Then taxes all depend. & your right about pipe & cigar tobacco not being taxed the same.
but it is a increased tax amount.

This is my estimate.
30for device would bring it to about 40-50 considering federal tax Not including state tax
thats not too bad. & Yes there is ways around that increase also.

It's all personal opinions & we all think differently how it would be effected as we don't have enough information on it all. (they always hide the full bill) Meaning we get what they want us to know. unless we go to them and request the full bill. Something like that.

 

[candre23]

Only cigarettes have high taxes. Other tobacco products like small cigars do not.

While this is currently true, there are new tax scales in the works that are intended to bring other tobacco products in line with cigarettes. If nic juice is considered a tobacco product, it is only a matter of time before the tax per-bottle is $20 an ounce or more.