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(ABC News/Health) Electronic Cigarettes: A Safer 'Smoke' or Another Bad Habit?

Discussion in 'Media and General News' started by ezmoose, Aug 13, 2010.

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  1. ezmoose

    ezmoose Guest

    Dec 18, 2009
    USA
  2. Our House

    Our House Super Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 29, 2009
    NJ, USA
    Even though this starts off horrible for the first two pages, it's actually a pretty fair article. It's nice to see a major news agency like CBS say that more and more doctors are giving ecigs the thumbs up. Hopefully this is a real trend.
     
  3. pianoguy

    pianoguy Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Nov 4, 2009
    Apple Valley, MN
    Not too bad if the reader goes past the first couple of pages. I always get a kick out of the teen marketing angle - if a teen is going online and spending hundreds of dollars without the parents' knowledge, then lack of parenting is what they should focus on.
     
  4. Our House

    Our House Super Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 29, 2009
    NJ, USA
    This part is pretty LOL:

    In other words, "I have no evidence whatsoever to back up my speculative claims" is what the good doctor is saying.
     
  5. PlanetScribbles

    PlanetScribbles Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 3, 2009
    Londinium, Brittania
    I got stuck into this article. One of the better ones to comment on :)
     
  6. ezmoose

    ezmoose Guest

    Dec 18, 2009
    USA
    Commented; however, it doesn't appear to be getting though?

    Oh well, I'm confident it will all be covered anyway! lol
     
  7. D103

    D103 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 18, 2010
    cedar rapids, iowa
    Excellent comments Moose!! I really hope they get posted.
     
  8. ezmoose

    ezmoose Guest

    Dec 18, 2009
    USA
    Thanks!

    I just tried posting again. I don't know why I'm not getting through; I've tried several times already? Perhaps I'm being blocked (censored) for no legitimate reason I can think of?
     
  9. rayneinspain

    rayneinspain Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Commented (after the first one was rejected earlier today):

     
  10. rothenbj

    rothenbj Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Jul 23, 2009
    Green Lane, Pa
    EZ, the kid angle has driven me nuts the last couple days. It all started when the dear state of NJ took three kids from their not too intelligent parents because they named them after Nazis. Their boy is Adolph Hitler whatever the last name is, but the courts upheld child abuse, but never specified other than the stupidity of what they had done.

    After reading that and the constant anti's use of the kids to prop up their cause, I think it's high time that the responsibility for the kids should fall back on the parents. After all, if second hand smoke endangers kids, what does bad parenting do? Let's have the organization Campaign for Bad Parent Free Kids take over and insist we get Bad Parents off the market. Ban 'em and if you can't get them to do it right, take the kids from them and let the government raise them the way they know how.

    Somehow we'll need to fund this effort. Since we know that bad parenting leads to lost productivity and health risks there should be excise taxes placed on this group. I personally don't want to be paying for their bad habits and I personally find the results of their bad habit affecting me. I say we start insisting that 1. if you have to have kids, you stay out of public property (that includes private businesses of course like malls, etc) to interact with them. 2. Under the no smoking signs, no kid signs should be similarly attached. 3. No kids in public parks and at outdoor events. I don't know how many times a screaming kid has bothered me when I was sitting on a park bench enjoying a smoke (when I smoked).

    They've got to start studying the effect of second hand kids. I volunteer in a thrift store. I don't even need to see the kids were there to know they were , you just have to look at the mess they leave in the book area to know it. Of course part of the problem is their bad parents, but you can't even use ventilation systems to correct the damage done.

    Okay, enough having fun, but you can make a case for putting the responsibility for what the kids to on their parents.
     
  11. ezmoose

    ezmoose Guest

    Dec 18, 2009
    USA
    Personal responsibility and proper parenting; I sort of remember when that was the ideal goal. Now it's the state raising the kids; flashback to Adolf’s Germany. Next the kids will be reporting on the activities of the parents!
     
  12. kai kane

    kai kane Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 15, 2010
    Near da water ...
    mahalos for posting the story!
     
  13. MoonRose

    MoonRose Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 3, 2010
    Indiana, USA

    They already are, that's one of the things stressed to them in school the first day they start. If you see mommy or daddy doing ????, then you come and tell one of your teachers or a policeman.
     
  14. ezmoose

    ezmoose Guest

    Dec 18, 2009
    USA
  15. MoonRose

    MoonRose Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 3, 2010
    Indiana, USA
    USA is starting to resemble USSR isn't it? :(
     
  16. xg4bx

    xg4bx Moved On ECF Veteran


    Amen. I highly doubt any teen would even have an interest in e-cigs. If a kid had $50,$60,$70 they're gonna go buy a pack of Newports or a dime bag and an Xbox game, they're not gonna sit and order an e-cig.

    Personally I think a big part of the difficulty that PVs receive is due purely to the term "e-cig". I'm guilty of using it too, as I did above, but hearing the term "cig" or cigarette just drives alot of people crazy.
     
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