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keelalagirl55

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I don't even know where to start.....

The FDA.....power hungry money mongers! If they were so very concerned for our well being they would .... out! Think about all the additives that are in trad cigs.....why were they placed there?...the FDA!!! And they even now require a new chemical....obviously unnatural....that makes the analog "go out" if not continuously puffed on.....what is that chemical doing to our bodies....not to mention our thumbs cause we have to keep lighting the darn thing:)

"E-cigarettes are often sold as safe, which is probably not true," Talbot added. "They may not be as dangerous as real cigarettes, but on the other hand, they could be. We just don't know."

As for this chichana.....hello...sweetie, I don't know you, you don't know me, so why should you care what I put in my body...and why should I care what you think.....yep we don't know, but it's not your decision to make!!!...go home and take care of your own....and some other phrases that that just are not lady-like for me to say.......What makes her think she is so superior to know better than anyone else what is best?????
Get over your egotistical self and find your own rock cause mine is not big enough for you too!!!!!

Well, that is enough for now.....I am so tired of being told how to live my life......I know what is best for me and mine.....not anyone else!!! (not that I wouldn't listen to advice from time to time:)) But come on...I have a mom, she did her job and I don't need another one. Thanks anyway...YOU'RE FIRED!
 

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even if ecigs were somewhat bad they would still be better than analogs

That's why so many studies come up with biased results. Instead of comparing e-cigs to analogs and concluding they do less harm, they compare them to pure mountain air, and conclude they do more harm. If you compare anything to its pure form, you're going to reach that conclusion.

It's just an easy way of getting the result you want in the test.

mac
 

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That's why so many studies come up with biased results. Instead of comparing e-cigs to analogs and concluding they do less harm, they compare them to pure mountain air, and conclude they do more harm. If you compare anything to its pure form, you're going to reach that conclusion.

It's just an easy way of getting the result you want in the test.

mac
They inexplicably hold anything nicotine related to a more stringent standard than anything else. Nothing is completely 'safe': not driving to work, eating, screwing, being pregnant, or even being born! For some reason, minimized risks are okay with all those things but for nicotine they demand that there is 0% chance of any ill effects whatsover, otherwise they call it 'dangerous'. I tell people that's why I didn't have kids: it's just too dangerous being pregnant. I have a higher risk of being murdered or getting diabetes, or dying in childbirth. I'd rather smoke a pack of unfiltered Chesterfields!
 

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They inexplicably hold anything nicotine related to a more stringent standard than anything else. Nothing is completely 'safe': not driving to work, eating, screwing, being pregnant, or even being born! For some reason, minimized risks are okay with all those things but for nicotine they demand that there is 0% chance of any ill effects whatsover, otherwise they call it 'dangerous'. I tell people that's why I didn't have kids: it's just too dangerous being pregnant. I have a higher risk of being murdered or getting diabetes, or dying in childbirth. I'd rather smoke a pack of unfiltered Chesterfields!

Oh no! There's that outside the box thinking again. Bad! Bad! :)

You can't win a fight when you don't know where the fight is.
 
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That's why so many studies come up with biased results. Instead of comparing e-cigs to analogs and concluding they do less harm, they compare them to pure mountain air, and conclude they do more harm. If you compare anything to its pure form, you're going to reach that conclusion.

It's just an easy way of getting the result you want in the test.

mac

Every time I read a study where they compared health of smokers to health of never smokers, I want to scream. "What good is this information? The only people who could apply the conclusion you reach to their own lives are never-smokers...and most will start somewhere during upper elementary or middle school. How many kids this age are reading scientific journal articles? Smokers can't apply the results because, without a time machine, it is impossible for them to become a never smoker. You either remain a smoker or become a former smoker."
 

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I just hate how people don't seem to see what is right in front of their faces and so obvious. That ecigs are FAR less harmful than cigarettes. It is so simple and yet they prefer we keep smoking!

I have had good luck with talking to my representatives. I did get on the media but, they shot 1 hour of video and used only 2 minutes of it (if that). At least they did use some good parts of the interview.

I think actually getting out and talking to people who can help (like our representatives) is the best way. I still need to get myself going and try to get a face-to-face with my senator. Take good info to support our position and go over and give this info to them.
 
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