Accidentally addicted to nicotine?

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LessSaidTheBetter

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Let's give it a proper scientific testing. The procedure is as follows,

A: Toss your gear in the garbage.
B: Make a list of your actions for the next 48 hours.
C: Check list

Unless the list contains things like...

- Robbed a convenience store
- Sold moms TV
- Fought for ownership of a street corner
- Tried melting down the family goldfish for ingots
- Made indecent proposals to shady guys driving suspiciously slow past your newly claimed corner
- Kicked little old ladies to get to their Benson&Hedges
- Unsuccessfully tried to pawn this list

... you're not an addict.

Sounds about right to me. Course I always crooked my family out a $20 at a time so they wouldn't notice. Strangers I'd rob indiscriminately.
 
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Let's give it a proper scientific testing. The procedure is as follows,

A: Toss your gear in the garbage.
B: Make a list of your actions for the next 48 hours.
C: Check list

Unless the list contains things like...

- Robbed a convenience store
- Sold moms TV
- Fought for ownership of a street corner
- Tried melting down the family goldfish for ingots
- Made indecent proposals to shady guys driving suspiciously slow past your newly claimed corner
- Kicked little old ladies to get to their Benson&Hedges
- Unsuccessfully tried to pawn this list

... you're not an addict.
Wait, why are we all vaping then when no one is addicted to nicotine, based on your scientific criteria?
 

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Wait, why are we all vaping then when no one is addicted to nicotine, based on your scientific criteria?

Probably because we got used to the habitual part of smoking, and also the reason why vaping as a smoking replacement works so well. You still got something to do with your hands, still have throat hit and feeling of inhalation. Another hint to take is that many vapers easily reduce or completly switch to zero nic over time.

"Addicted" to nicotine from vaping? My personal opinion would be, hardly.
If we were able to produce the same type of hit we get from juice with nic, but without nicotine, I'd say most wouldn't be missing it after 2-3 days.
 
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Sandy Graham

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Just taper off slowly and eventually get down to 0 mg juice. I was addicted after smoking cigarettes for only a few months. E-cigarettes are a brilliant way to detox from nicotine. I do not think your friends knew that 12 mg nicotine would be a lot to someone who had no experience with it.

E-cigarettes can be used for great good and healing, but many people have only used them as another nicotine delivery system.

Best of luck.
 

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I think the key factor in this particular situation is that we have someone who is used to TH with their other activity so it's something familiar and what makes vaping nic juice more satisfying than 0 nic juice. I'm betting the same would be said of those who inhale other more dangerous unmentionables that also give off TH. For people who are used to TH trying something with very low to no TH wouldn't be very attractive to them.
 

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OP, all your going to get here is pure speculation and opinion, on both sides. An answer to a debate that's been on going in the scientific community isn't going to be found on this forum through it's members. Your answer is going to come through your personal experience with nicotine and no where else. Everybody's different.
I get quite a kick of TH when vaping certain 0 mg juices. If nicotine is not addictive, then I ask you, why are you still using it after vaping for so long? I take no offense to anyone vaping nicotine, nor smoking cigarettes. I am not looking for an argument, just honest discussion. Rare, that.
 

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I get quite a kick of TH when vaping certain 0 mg juices. If nicotine is not addictive, then I ask you, why are you still using it after vaping for so long? I take no offense to anyone vaping nicotine, nor smoking cigarettes. I am not looking for an argument, just honest discussion. Rare, that.


This would be something for you to start your own thread with please.
 

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Wait, why are we all vaping then when no one is addicted to nicotine, based on your scientific criteria?

My highly sophisticated methods of sciencing tells me it's because we developed both a habit and an.. uhm.. above average liking for (pardon the scientific terminology: ) 'a cocktail of thingies' found in cigarettes that our brain/id appreciated very much. Some managed to replace that 'above average liking' with nicotine only. Some still crave other parts of the cocktail - to the extent where they stick to additives like WTA and NET.

Based on a very scientific sample size of 1 (me) - I dare say nicotine and cigarette "addiction" are two vastly different beasts. And they both differ quite a lot from what others may call addiction. Unfortunately, these two has - by those actually schooled in the wearing of white coats - often been mistaken for one and the same.

On a more serious note: I'm actually not sure whether vaping is (to me) most similar to smoking cigarettes - or drinking coffee. I craved cigarettes. Hard to take my mind off having one if I couldn't. I enjoy coffee. Drink it every day if I can. But I don't crave it. Doesn't tax my thinking if I for some reason can't get a cup. For me personally - there is no such thing as caffeine addiction.

Since I started vaping I have not been in a situation where I have been "deprived" of vaping for more than 24 hours. So far all I can tell is: It's not at all like smoking was. With the lack of sensation/knowledge of impending doom smoking came with - I haven't felt compelled to test the limits of abstinence.
 
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Did the idea of collecting stamps or taking up needlepoint occur to you?
PoliticallyIncorrect, my original post gave the actual explanation as to why I began vaping, however I was advised by several members to "rephrase" my question, if you will. It's not just something I decided to take up as a pass time.
 

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Okay. I've never smoked cigarettes in my life, but as a hobby I decided to give vaping a try by the recommendation of some friends.

I asked my friend to pick me up the same vape pen he had (evod), not even thinking of asking for a nicotine-free juice. I noticed on the bottle it said 12mg nicotine about 3 days into vaping when I ran out. I didn't think it was that big of a deal at the time, so continued buying the 12mg ejuice.
It's been about 7 weeks now since I first started vaping and today I decided to try a non-nicotine juice. I love the flavour, but I am not feeling satisfied at all. I am worried that I may have developed an addiction to nicotine but my friends insist that it's not possible since I've never smoked.

So, please tell me, do you think it's possible that vaping the nicotine ejuices have gotten me addicted to nicotine?

Thanks..

Hi 1sttimevaper2015 and welcome to ECF :)

I typically vape zero-nic juices but I like a bit of TH so sometimes I use some nic. I smoked for decades and weaned off nic in under a year after I switched to vaping. Other than appreciating the TH and the slight `wake-up`I get from nic I can take it or leave it these days and have been in this situation for a couple of years now.

I won`t say you can`t get addicted to the nicotine in your vape or to vaping in general if you do it regularly for long enough. People get addicted to all kinds of things, it doesn`t even require the intake of a substance. I doubt you`re really addicted to it yet, probably more accustomed to vaping and doing it with nic, and perhaps developing a dependence. If I were in your position I would back off the vaping and reduce the nic in steps because I would not want to risk the possibility of stronger dependence or addiction.
 
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