ADVICE needed for my future purchases

[louis1]

Hi all,

so i am upgrading from my ego/clearo set up to something more fashionable.. I mean useable ;-)

i want to buy a couple of vv mods. Moneys no problem, but i wont spend £175 on a provari, im sure they are machined beautifly and work great, but cant help but think they are over priced.

Im thinking itaste mvp and gripper vv mod. ?? Maybe?
any other suggestions i could check out would be great.

I want to try some tank carto systems to, i want to avoid wicking systems.
Im thinking protank 3, odessy tank from tw, puff daddy, boge f16. + lots of cartos to try.

I want to get some cheap dripping atomizers to try juice to.

Im also looking for decent uk based vendors. I have always used ecig wizard, they are very reliable, but they seem to have limited choices of mods and tanks... And are always out of stock.

So any suggestions of mods, carto/tanks, and vendors.. It would be really appreciated. At least i can go and check out reviews.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

 

[suspectK]

If money is no problem, why do you see a provari as overpriced? I don't personally own one, but I know several people that do.. But do you mean that money is no problem...so I'll gladly replace a cheap vaporizer when it dies...no need to have ability to get cheap repairs?

My first vendor was totally wicked, started in UK.

IBTanked, phiniac, itaste, sigleli(or whatever), svoemesto, provape, vaperev..EDIT, forgot you're in UK, cloud9

ikenvape, avidvapor..I just use smoktek for cartomizers.

I don't know if any of the *liquid* vendors I use will ship to UK.

 

[Thrasher]

for vendors over there i would hit cloud9, alba vapors and itaste.de

 

[devauto]

Hi all,

so i am upgrading from my ego/clearo set up to something more fashionable.. I mean useable ;-)

i want to buy a couple of vv mods. Moneys no problem, but i wont spend £175 on a provari, im sure they are machined beautifly and work great, but cant help but think they are over priced.

Im thinking itaste mvp and gripper vv mod. ?? Maybe?
any other suggestions i could check out would be great.

I want to try some tank carto systems to, i want to avoid wicking systems.
Im thinking protank 3, odessy tank from tw, puff daddy, boge f16. + lots of cartos to try.

I want to get some cheap dripping atomizers to try juice to.

Im also looking for decent uk based vendors. I have always used ecig wizard, they are very reliable, but they seem to have limited choices of mods and tanks... And are always out of stock.

So any suggestions of mods, carto/tanks, and vendors.. It would be really appreciated. At least i can go and check out reviews.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Okay, so my ... caveat first ... I am NOT a Provari owner! That said, the Provari is supposed to be among the best (if not the best) VV only device. Fit, finish, and most importantly durability and consistency is what sets them apart from everything else. EVERY single review I have read on them states that their strength is in the durability and the consistency they add to your vaping experience. Are they worth the money? Like I said, I don't own one ... only you can decide ...

Now, on to the meat of my response ... the MVP 2 is likely the best mod going for the price in the category you are looking at. It does however add VW to the equation that you won't get on the original MVP or Gripper mods. For the additional $5-$10 (I think), I would pick this up over the Gripper or MVP 1. Other than that, if you are looking at Box mods ONLY (not specified in your post), then you could also look at the Innokin iTaste VTR and the VV Reo Grand. Both of these seem to have a strong following and perform well.

I can personally attest to the VTR, I have been using one for a few weeks now and absolutely love it. I can't yet answer how well it compares against the MVP 2, other than to say that it FEELS much more substantial in my hand. It is definitely the heavier, more indestructible feeling of the 2.

Again, just my on the topic, and as always ... YMMV!

HTH

 

[Cowleg24]

Kanger Protanks, and the minis, are great quality products. I personally would stay away from Smok tech cartos, I have had problems with them in the past. Vision makes good cartos as well. I personally use a Kanger EVOD, it works like a protank, just a little more durable. Smoktech does make good mods though. Any of their variable volt batteries work well. The Itaste MVP is a great product, the RVC* (more expensive version of MVP) is also a great product. I'm in the US so I don't know any good UK vendors. Just be sure to buy the real thing, a lot of knock offs are being made.

 

[louis1]

If money is no problem, why do you see a provari as overpriced?

I just see them as being overpriced, i could afford one. But i could get two decent mods for same price, im sure they would not be as good. Hmmmm? I dont know, so many choices. If i got a provari my wife could never know

 

[louis1]

Okay, so my ... caveat first ... I am NOT a Provari owner! That said, the Provari is supposed to be among the best (if not the best) VV only device. Fit, finish, and most importantly durability and consistency is what sets them apart from everything else. EVERY single review I have read on them states that their strength is in the durability and the consistency they add to your vaping experience. Are they worth the money? Like I said, I don't own one ... only you can decide ...

Now, on to the meat of my response ... the MVP 2 is likely the best mod going for the price in the category you are looking at. It does however add VW to the equation that you won't get on the original MVP or Gripper mods. For the additional $5-$10 (I think), I would pick this up over the Gripper or MVP 1. Other than that, if you are looking at Box mods ONLY (not specified in your post), then you could also look at the Innokin iTaste VTR and the VV Reo Grand. Both of these seem to have a strong following and perform well.

I can personally attest to the VTR, I have been using one for a few weeks now and absolutely love it. I can't yet answer how well it compares against the MVP 2, other than to say that it FEELS much more substantial in my hand. It is definitely the heavier, more indestructible feeling of the 2.

Again, just my on the topic, and as always ... YMMV!

HTH

Thanks. Will check out the mvp2. Think that will be on my list for sure

 

[louis1]

Okay, so my ... caveat first ... I am NOT a Provari owner! That said, the Provari is supposed to be among the best (if not the best) VV only device. Fit, finish, and most importantly durability and consistency is what sets them apart from everything else. EVERY single review I have read on them states that their strength is in the durability and the consistency they add to your vaping experience. Are they worth the money? Like I said, I don't own one ... only you can decide ...

Now, on to the meat of my response ... the MVP 2 is likely the best mod going for the price in the category you are looking at. It does however add VW to the equation that you won't get on the original MVP or Gripper mods. For the additional $5-$10 (I think), I would pick this up over the Gripper or MVP 1. Other than that, if you are looking at Box mods ONLY (not specified in your post), then you could also look at the Innokin iTaste VTR and the VV Reo Grand. Both of these seem to have a strong following and perform well.

I can personally attest to the VTR, I have been using one for a few weeks now and absolutely love it. I can't yet answer how well it compares against the MVP 2, other than to say that it FEELS much more substantial in my hand. It is definitely the heavier, more indestructible feeling of the 2.

Again, just my on the topic, and as always ... YMMV!

HTH

Wow. Just checked the vtr.. Looks sweet.. Do most tanks fit in that ring they have put on it?
Dam that looks sweet. Cheers

 

[Baditude]

If I were you, I'd strongly consider the iTaste MVP over the Smoktech VV Gripper. Metal body vs plastic. Durable vs not-so-durable. I own both a first gen MVP and a ST VV Gripper. The ST Gripper's front panel of buttons fell into the mod body after 7 weeks of use; it happened to still be under warranty by one week so it was exchanged for a new one by the vendor. The battery door is fragile and requires care in not easily breaking it. It's output while vaping makes it seem like it is firing at least one volt higher than what I set; I blame this on the 33.3 hz processor chip it uses.

The ST Gripper uses the cheap 33.3 hz PWM chip that most of the Chinese mods use which causes the "rattlesnake effect". The MVP uses a much more refined PWM chip at a higher frequency which argueably provides a smoother vape to many users.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/variable-voltage-apv-discussion/488840-rattlesnake-effect-why-cheapo-vv-exception-itaste-mvp-dont-vape-same-provari-dna20d.html

 

[Baditude]

Wow. Just checked the vtr.. Looks sweet.. Do most tanks fit in that ring they have put on it?
Dam that looks sweet. Cheers

Pretty sure any 22mm or less wide tank will fit in the VTR.

I've held one of these. They are bulky and heavy. It uses the 33.3 hz chip, not the more refined chip that the iTaste MVP or VV/VW V3 use. This was confirmed by PBusardo's reviews of all three devices when they were put on an oscelloscope.

 

[DetraMental]

Baditude knows what he's talking about! The MVP 1 or 2 are really nice mods with internal 2600mAh batteries that lasts for days (this is dependent upon how heavy a user you are). I love mine it last me about 2 days and I'm a heavy user.

 

[MrMaddox]

Do most tanks fit in that ring they have put on it?

The vast, vast majority of tanks will fit down along the side of the device. It was built to accommodate the diameter if the iclear30's and the protanks. Some cartotanks won't fit inside there (because thy're too wide) and some (like the mini-protank II) won't work down there because they're ego threaded. To make those tanks (all of them) work in the VTR, Innokin includes an adapter in the box that allows those tanks to be placed on top just like the MVP series. The main differences between the VTR and the MPV series is that the VTR uses replaceable 18650 batteries (no passthrough) and you can't charge off it like the MVP series. Some of the testing shows that the VTR has a very slight tendency to run hot (output is a little greater than stated) on some of the higher voltage/wattage settings, but every review I've seen has rated the increased durability as worth the tradeoffs.

 

[tj99959]

I would try to use a 'think ahead' approach to it. The first thing to think about is do you want to stick to internal batteries like the MVP, or do you want to move to replaceable battery PV's. If its replaceable batteries, how many different sizes of batteries do you want to deal with. You can make things very complicated, or you can keep things pretty simple, and the good news is that the choice is yours.

I have 4 very different PV's sitting in front of me right now, ranging from VV to bottom feeders. By thinking ahead on which to buy, all 4 use the same 18490/500 batteries. You wouldn't believe how that cuts down on logistics.

So think about where you want to get, and about how to get there.

 

[Baditude]

Some of the testing shows that the VTR has a very slight tendency to run hot (output is a little greater than stated) on some of the higher voltage/wattage settings, but every review I've seen has rated the increased durability as worth the tradeoffs.

That would be because it uses the 33.3 hz PWM chip.

No doubt the VTR should be a durable mod. It's just way too bulky and heavy for anything other than using it as a "for home only" PV for my preferences. Add to that the much higher cost of this mod ($120?), you'll also have to buy multiple batteries and a decent charger for them, and then you have spent as much as you would have for a Provari.

 

[MrMaddox]

Add to that the much higher cost of this mod ($120?), you'll also have to buy multiple batteries and a decent charger for them, and then you have spent as much as you would have for a Provari.

Totally agree, but with the prices seeming to be on their way down (101vape lists the VTR at $64.99 in their coming soon section), the cost/benefit math is getting better.

 

[Ref Minor]

Get a Semovar from cloud9, £135 for the base kit. One of the best Mods available.

 

[Ref Minor]

That would be because it uses the 33.3 hz PWM chip.

No doubt the VTR should be a durable mod. It's just way too bulky and heavy for anything other than using it as a "for home only" PV for my preferences. Add to that the much higher cost of this mod ($120?), you'll also have to buy multiple batteries and a decent charger for them, and then you have spent as much as you would have for a Provari.

Where to start?

The VTR actually uses a 48hz chip.

It is more compact than an MVP due to its recessed tank design. I throw it in a pocket for my out and about mod.

If he got a Provari he would still have to by the batteries and charger.

I paid $71 for mine delivered to the UK, a Provari would cost $240 for the basic model in the UK (import or locally sourced)

You got the heavy and durable bit right though.

 

[louis1]

Wow, was well worth posting on here, i now know to avoid the gripper and didnt even cross my mind about internal/external batteries.

I will check out the semovar too.

Although i may get a provari. Ill just tell my wife it was £12.99 hehehehe

 

[BillyWJ]

Wow, was well worth posting on here, i now know to avoid the gripper and didnt even cross my mind about internal/external batteries.

I will check out the semovar too.

Although i may get a provari. Ill just tell my wife it was £12.99 hehehehe

Another vote for the MVP 2 here. It's a great first mod - it does everything (vv/vw/ohm test), is really solid and well built, and works like a charm. I love mine.

As for cartos, I've had no problems with Smoktech cartos and tanks, but I'm about to try some Boges and Ikenvapes based on reviews I've seen. The Smok tanks are fairly solid, too - the one I have has a pyrex tank, and the only issue is it's a bit tricky to refill when you first start with it. If you like the ProTank, you'll really like cartos - you know how great a ProTank is, with a new head, and fresh juice? A carto will give you that (if you prime it right), for a long time. A ProTank, in my experience, will start to decrease in quality after a day or two of heavy use - a carto will go for a week or longer. My last carto lasted almost two weeks, same flavor, same consistent performance the whole way. I like to fiddle, so I'm going to experiment with slotting one, to see how it is, based on Pbusardo's video about it.

(I still use my ProTanks alongside cartos - cartos I use for all-day vaping, and I use the ProTanks for those sudden urges for other flavors).

 

[Ladiekali]

I am not going to read thru this, the reccomendation is simple....
Mvp2 with an ibtank.

You will be happy as a pig in poo.

The only thing that made me happier was my provari with my ibtank.
But i understand your decision not to get one. It is very expensive.
I bought many other batteries before i opted for two provaris.

What i will say is this... After getting my provaris, i gave away allll my other batteries, minus my mvp2.