I stopped buying cartomizers after trying some of the first 808s. Just not enough vapor no matter what I filled them with. Now, I only use them when I fly; so little vapor, they don't look to anyone like I'm smoking.
Do any of these have vapor at the level of 801s or 510s? I don't care about heat as long as it doesn't taste burnt, just want good vapor production. Are any of these up with atomizers?