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Alibaba and JD.com to Stop E-Cigarette Sales to US Buyers

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  1. iVapeDIY

    iVapeDIY Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 1, 2017
    Toronto, Canada
    Alibaba to Stop Sales of E-Cigarettes to U.S. Buyers

    Chinese e-commerce giant Alibaba Group Holding Ltd. BABA 1.99% is suspending sales of e-cigarettes and accessories to buyers in the U.S., citing concerns about underage vaping and a mysterious lung illness that has been linked to at least 23 deaths.

    Up in smoke: Alibaba to stop selling vape components in US

    Alibaba Group Holding Ltd said that listings for a range of products would not be displayed for users located in the US. These include box mods, which are e-cigarettes with replaceable batteries, atomisers and storage tanks. Smaller vape pens, herbal vapours, heat-not-burn devices, and empty pod cartridges would also be pulled from the market, it said.

    Alibaba to stop sales of e-cigarette components in United States

    Get you atties, mods and accessories now! Is FT still good?
     
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  2. puffon

    puffon Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 18, 2014
    The Villages, FL
    Wonder when it goes into effect?
    Everything is still showing for me.
     
  3. Eskie

    Eskie ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 6, 2016
    NY
    They are supposedly suspending this after a lawsuit from Juul over counterfeit pods. They are reportedly stopping vapor pens, empty pods, and herbal vaporizers. I expect this will be a very targeted action aimed at counterfeit cartridges that are Juul compatible and things like Dank Vape labeled boxes with empty pods for THC use.

    eBay and Amazon purportedly have long-standing rules against Vape related products. Doesn’t seem to affect much on either platform either.

    Edit: really, can we stop with the click bait thread titles? There is no big ban on vapor products for sale out of China to the US, which is how this thread is titled.
     
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  4. iVapeDIY

    iVapeDIY Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 1, 2017
    Toronto, Canada
    Alibaba = China e-Commerce

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    Just How Far Ahead Is Alibaba in China’s e-Commerce Market?

    Alibaba’s grip on China’s e-commerce market is so strong that some of its competitors are unable to cope. For example, Amazon will shut down its domestic Chinese marketplace this month. The move indicates its failed attempt to take on Alibaba directly in its home market. Walmart (WMT) also sold its Chinese online marketplace to JD in 2016.
     
  5. iVapeDIY

    iVapeDIY Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 1, 2017
    Toronto, Canada
    Can't test from Canada. Will try Tor Browser if I can get lucky with US IP address.
     
  6. Eskie

    Eskie ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 6, 2016
    NY
    Top online retailer in China. International transactions are a minor portion of their business. (we're in the international part)
    Alibba sales pattern Chins vs. international.JPG

    Most of our vape gear purchases are not made through Alibaba. Sure, if you're in China Alibaba is a big deal. If you're not in China, it's not.
     
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  7. JCinFLA

    JCinFLA Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 21, 2015
    I read 2 days ago that Alibaba was 1 of the Chinese companies that the US would be stopping from doing business with the US. The article reported that it had to do with their human rights violations and other things.

    Seems that Alibaba has put their own spin on the whole situation...as if they had made the decision to stop dealing with the US for the reasons given in the OP. ;)
     
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  8. Terri McVeety

    Terri McVeety Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 9, 2018
    Oh wow! I never expected China to pull away from us! Smells a little fishy...

    Edited to apologize:

    should have read ALL the posts...sorry!
     
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  9. Baditude

    Baditude ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Apr 8, 2012
    Ridgeway, Ohio
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  10. LoveVanilla

    LoveVanilla Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 23, 2013
    Texas
    Still seeing box mod with shipping to US at the moment. However, glad my purchases for the
    vapocalypse are complete. If you haven't, might want to set something aside for uncertain times
     
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  11. madstabber

    madstabber Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I support the protests in Hong Kong
     
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  12. Uncle Willie

    Uncle Willie Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

  13. Haktuspit

    Haktuspit Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 13, 2013
    Denver, CO
    Let's hope not. A lot of us are planning on getting parts there after May.
     
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  14. Eskie

    Eskie ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 6, 2016
    NY
    I doubt it. Pretty different business model and not even close to being on the radar like Alibaba is. FT sells a very limited line of products compared to Alibaba which sells everything.
     
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  15. iVapeDIY

    iVapeDIY Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 1, 2017
    Toronto, Canada
    Not a fan of Alibaba either; they are input supply chain to many e-Commerce sites though. Used to get stuff from GearBest but they no longer ship to Canada ... only FT now.

    Checked using Tor. Mods still available -- Aegis Solo $24.
     
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  16. 440BB

    440BB Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Apr 19, 2011
    The Motor City
    I suspect it is specifically about Juul clones and related products because of the lawsuit. That would explain most everything else still being available.
     
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  17. Eskie

    Eskie ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 6, 2016
    NY
    As you're in Canada (I think) the restrictions to the US have no effect on your access to anything. I just checked using Chrome and a US IP address and see all the usual vape gear with no issue at all. Same for AliExpress, although I never understood the difference between the two. Obviously neither are shopping sites for me.
     
  18. classwife

    classwife Admin
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    Moved to Media and General News
     
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  19. iVapeDIY

    iVapeDIY Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 1, 2017
    Toronto, Canada
    Tor Browser has a proxy that will use any IP address in its pool - US, Germany, France, Latvia, ... it has a button to randomly change it at will. Very useful to access sites than ban/ restrict certain countries. Downside of using proxies is speed ... super slow. Free. Google it.
     
  20. Eskie

    Eskie ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 6, 2016
    NY
    I know it just rarely use it. I’ve never had much need to but as you point out there are time’s it’sa useful tool.
     

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